youami 54 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 Now that the futures have been picked we can put names to the various picks and players that were traded in 2015, 2017 and 2018. 2015 Two trades - one with Gold Coast and one with GWS Gold Coast In Pick 3, pick 10, pick 43 Out Pick 6, pick 29, future 2016 1st round GWS In Pick 7, Bugg Out Pick 10, 43, 64 (this pick was used along with others to match a GWS Academy Bid for Flynn, so I have not included in analysis) In summary, if you knock out the pick 10s and the pick 43s as they came in and out in both trades this is the result In: Oliver (4), Weideman (9), Bugg Out: Callum Ah Chee (8), Darcy Tucker (27) (GC must have traded with Freo) and Will Brodie (9) 2017 In Lever, Pick 35, Future 3rd Round Out Pick 10, future 1st round, future 4th round NB Two trades took place in 18 which effect the original deal, Adelaide also traded a few times with Carlton in 17 and 18 with st kilda, we traded adelaide's future 3rd (46), plus our second round pick (36) and we got back pick 28 Adelaide then traded our 4th round pick (67) via Carlton to St Kilda In summary, if you include the 2017 trade and the eventual outcomes of the 2018 trades In: Lever, Petty (37), James Jordan (33) Out: Lachie O'Brien (Carl) (10), Liam Stocker (Carl) (19), Bytel (41), Parker(47) , Robbie Young (67) 2018 The GC and Freo trade did not involve future picks so it is far less complicated In: May, KK, Tom Sparrow (27) Out: Hogan, Brett Bewley (59) Summary of all trades (in order of best to worst): In: Oliver, Lever, Weideman, May, KK, Tom Sparrow, Petty, James Jordan, Bugg, Out: Hogan, Lachie O'Brien, Stocker, Callum Ah Chee, Darcy Tucker (GC must have traded with Freo), Will Brodie, Bytel, Parker, Young, Bewley Who knows how well KK, Petty, Jordan, Sparrow vs O'Brien, Stocker, Bytel, Parker, Young, Bewley will be, (I think Ah Chee, Tucker, Brodie and Bugg are depth players at best) If you take all of them out We got Oliver, Lever, Weideman and May for Hogan. Take a bow Melbourne Football Club. 4 2 Quote
jackaub 1,402 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 34 minutes ago, youami said: Now that the futures have been picked we can put names to the various picks and players that were traded in 2015, 2017 and 2018. 2015 Two trades - one with Gold Coast and one with GWS Gold Coast In Pick 3, pick 10, pick 43 Out Pick 6, pick 29, future 2016 1st round GWS In Pick 7, Bugg Out Pick 10, 43, 64 (this pick was used along with others to match a GWS Academy Bid for Flynn, so I have not included in analysis) In summary, if you knock out the pick 10s and the pick 43s as they came in and out in both trades this is the result In: Oliver (4), Weideman (9), Bugg Out: Callum Ah Chee (8), Darcy Tucker (27) (GC must have traded with Freo) and Will Brodie (9) 2017 In Lever, Pick 35, Future 3rd Round Out Pick 10, future 1st round, future 4th round NB Two trades took place in 18 which effect the original deal, Adelaide also traded a few times with Carlton in 17 and 18 with st kilda, we traded adelaide's future 3rd (46), plus our second round pick (36) and we got back pick 28 Adelaide then traded our 4th round pick (67) via Carlton to St Kilda In summary, if you include the 2017 trade and the eventual outcomes of the 2018 trades In: Lever, Petty (37), James Jordan (33) Out: Lachie O'Brien (Carl) (10), Liam Stocker (Carl) (19), Bytel (41), Parker(47) , Robbie Young (67) 2018 The GC and Freo trade did not involve future picks so it is far less complicated In: May, KK, Tom Sparrow (27) Out: Hogan, Brett Bewley (59) Summary of all trades (in order of best to worst): In: Oliver, Lever, Weideman, May, KK, Tom Sparrow, Petty, James Jordan, Bugg, Out: Hogan, Lachie O'Brien, Stocker, Callum Ah Chee, Darcy Tucker (GC must have traded with Freo), Will Brodie, Bytel, Parker, Young, Bewley Who knows how well KK, Petty, Jordan, Sparrow vs O'Brien, Stocker, Bytel, Parker, Young, Bewley will be, (I think Ah Chee, Tucker, Brodie and Bugg are depth players at best) If you take all of them out We got Oliver, Lever, Weideman and May for Hogan. Take a bow Melbourne Football Club. Terrific analysis Youi makes you feel like our club knows how to trade up Very important ability in modern footy Well done MFC 3 Quote
Demonland 74,430 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 Well traded up and thanks for the analysis @youami. Quote
Smokey 4,391 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, ProDee said: *Jordon Excellent contribution PD lol 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Great work, thanks for the time and energy you put in. If I may add a small adjustment, in 2015 pick 29 which we traded to the Suns was used by them to pick up Joshua Schoenfeld at pick 34. This was pushed back 5 spots due to academy picks for Mills, Hopper, Kennedy, Hipwood and Himmelberg. 1 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Wow. Lots of work in that analysis thanks 1 Quote
Storm Boy 376 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Brilliant analysis. Beautiful eye for detail. You forgot to mention Jimmy Toumpas at the end of 2015 with Port Adelaide. Quote
Storm Boy 376 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 I forgot to mention the Football Department didn't want Jimmy Toumpas to leave. What a sliding doors moment for him. I'm sad for him that it didn't work for him at Port Adelaide Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Storm Boy said: I forgot to mention the Football Department didn't want Jimmy Toumpas to leave. What a sliding doors moment for him. I'm sad for him that it didn't work for him at Port Adelaide I find that very hard to believe. 2 Quote
jackaub 1,402 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Storm Boy said: I forgot to mention the Football Department didn't want Jimmy Toumpas to leave. What a sliding doors moment for him. I'm sad for him that it didn't work for him at Port Adelaide Jimmy was not part of the Dees future. Poor pick, poor development. Good Luck Jimmy wherever you are Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted December 21, 2018 Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, jackaub said: Jimmy was not part of the Dees future. Poor pick, poor development. Good Luck Jimmy wherever you are He’s at an Airport looking creepy as f Quote
Lil_red_fire_engine 11,383 Posted December 22, 2018 Posted December 22, 2018 A great read. Oliver on his own is worth all the players and picks we missed. Quote
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