On 20/12/2018 at 02:25, FireInTheBelly said:

Hawkins does exactly the same thing whenever he feels he can't take the mark.

Glad someone mentioned that.

Hawkins is a dog when jumping from behind. Has been for years.

  On 20/12/2018 at 09:04, DV8 said:

Well we've been getting used to political correctness at the Dees, for the past 50 Yrs, and I still haven't got used to the feeling of losing... whilst we fly the johnny be good flag.

 

It's not cheating if your not charged with anything, Mnd.

So the rest of the competition tries to bend the rules all the way, before they are broken, and to get away with things...  whilst you continue to NOT cheat in some politically correct fantasy of your own making....  but what is that exactly???   when other clubs are taking ALL their opportunities... and the flags.

 

Do you pay all the tax you should...  or do you bend the rules,  just a bit, MnD ?

 I bet you do not answer...  just come out to throw shyte, and hide.

DV8 curious! 

It is cheating when one cheats. 

Lance Armstrong was cheating before he got caught, getting caught simply proved it. I follow cricket and I was disgusted with sandpaper gate. 

Lost your bet, I answered. Sorry about not throwing shyte earlier, I had work. 

  On 20/12/2018 at 11:38, Ethan Tremblay said:

When the amount you’re selling is under the prescribed amount required to be declared as trafficking.

Anyhoo..back to training, I’m on the red-eye tonight to Melbourne, depending on how my morning pans out I’m going to try to swing by for a look. I’ve pressed my chaps just in case. 

Great.  My Brother will be there.  Slightly portly, thinning dark/greying hair, 5'9'', in a suit with no tie. 

Be sure to say hello. ?

  On 20/12/2018 at 02:51, DV8 said:

Deep down in our clubs psyche... I think we are all tFearful for poor old Essendrug.

And of the Hawks except that the Hawks are a different club, these days.

the Roos to a lesser extent, and this fear grew out of trying to be a 'prim and proper'. politically correct club...  This stemmed from Northern stand attitudes.

 

And at the same era's, did our inability to develop our kids... and to maintain the rugged Footy Club culture.

 

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  On 20/12/2018 at 03:01, DV8 said:

# Exhibit A... of what happens to our clubs footy culture, and the growth of bruise free footy.  This is why  'bruise free'  continues to creep back in... after we have exorcised it from within.

 

This is how it regrows...  this  'non contact type philosophy'  does not fit with the rest of   the AFL Footy Competition... and belongs on a soccer field,  where  hard tackling and physically hard contact are frowned upon.

 

This is how our Footy Clubs Culture, continually gets pulled down and torn apart from within,  by politically correct others.

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Wow. The culture wars have now pervaded Demonland. Let's leave that to the silly politicians in Canberra, shall we?

  On 20/12/2018 at 09:04, DV8 said:

Well we've been getting used to political correctness at the Dees, for the past 50 Yrs, and I still haven't got used to the feeling of losing... whilst we fly the johnny be good flag.

 

It's not cheating if your not charged with anything, Mnd.

So the rest of the competition tries to bend the rules all the way, before they are broken, and to get away with things...  whilst you continue to NOT cheat in some politically correct fantasy of your own making....  but what is that exactly???   when other clubs are taking ALL their opportunities... and the flags.

 

Do you pay all the tax you should...  or do you bend the rules,  just a bit, MnD ?

 I bet you do not answer...  just come out to throw [censored], and hide.

Bollocks. On the logic (or rather, illogicality) of that post, Donald McKay wasn't murdered because nobody was ever charged with that crime.

  On 20/12/2018 at 03:55, tiers said:

What if Bruiser turns out to be a player, not a thug. We should not expect him to be the "pack crasher" just because he is bigger than most. My memory of the 50s and 60s is of a skillful, talented team and we won games for that reason and no other.

I would prefer him to take marks or create crumbing opportunities and forget about all these other issues.

Rather than being a 'pack crusher', I would like him to take those grabs that lead to scores and related crumbing pathways for his teammates. However, certain players can achieve a 'right of passage' in tight situations if they possess that mongrel factor - almost being too confronting to be regularly tackled or intercepted in the 'course of his game of football'. He has attributes that may (no pun intended) reduce the likelihood of that gross interference from opposition players that the Dees' forwards have experienced in recent years - such as holding and double-teaming with physical restraint - as occurred with Hoges, a younger Weed and each week, Melksham. Forget the BS from disgruntled NthMelb supporters, the big fella is not slow; instead, he is agile, mobile and virile. He also takes a good grab of the ball and is near-impossible to bump out of the way at the fall of the ball which he reads really well. Lotsa promise for us....

  On 20/12/2018 at 21:08, ManDee said:

DV8 curious! 

It is cheating when one cheats. 

Lance Armstrong was cheating before he got caught, getting caught simply proved it. I follow cricket and I was disgusted with sandpaper gate. 

Lost your bet, I answered. Sorry about not throwing [censored] earlier, I had work. 

so how do you feel about fast bowlers bowling intimidatory bouncers at all batsmen, including tail-enders?

This is where i was going with that cricket question.

  On 20/12/2018 at 23:33, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

Wow. The culture wars have now pervaded Demonland. Let's leave that to the silly politicians in Canberra, shall we?

Bollocks. On the logic (or rather, illogicality) of that post, Donald McKay wasn't murdered because nobody was ever charged with that crime.

In a sense, yes... the body has so far not been found, so we do not know.  He may have died accidentally through aggression ? and still body removed and disposed of... we just don't know.  

But we can speculate and make assumptions, can't we.   My take is, he has been murdered... but truth is I don't know. 

I do know I'm angry about his circumstances.

 

Truth is in footy, what gets past is not illegal. as it has been let go through.

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So, those who want to play a different game to the other clubs...  then I wish those who do, would find another club to put up on a pedestal...  and let us get on with winning Footy matches... and Flags.  and leave our boys alone.

Edited December 21, 20186 yr by DV8

  On 21/12/2018 at 02:59, DV8 said:

so how do you feel about fast bowlers bowling intimidatory bouncers at all batsmen, including tail-enders?

This is where i was going with that cricket question.

Love bouncers within the rules. 

  On 21/12/2018 at 04:15, ManDee said:

Love bouncers within the rules. 

Well I don't know what you were going on about in my posts... if you don't mind intimidatory actions in sport.

  On 19/12/2018 at 01:08, Deemania since 56 said:

Essential stuff, Mr Vagg, well nailed. That is going to be his big asset, at FFwd and then, back-up to Maxxy. The Weed can ruck on the fwd line, as can Gawny. Rotation, rotation: Gawn, Weed, Preusse/

I like the idea of Gawn rucking in the foward line as much as possible.  The connection he has with our onballers results in such clean clearances which often result in goals in the forward half of the ground.  If Preuss can develop this part of his game per his much stated desire to learn from Max, then all the better.

As others have stated, having another tall option (Max or Preuss) should also benifit Weid and T Mac.  I just hope that we can adjust and settle Preuss into the side quickly without impacting on early season team form and results like somewhat occurred with Lever.