MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 16

[D4Life 2,468]

13 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

This goes along way to seeing our forwards clunking the long or low ball. Removing Weid and Hannan means no more seeing Hogan and TMac fly in a pack with two others. Hannan did it continually last week when we need him at the base.

I’ve unfortunately seen all of our losses at the “G” this year, starting with Cats, Hawks, Tigers, Pies & Saints. In all of them our lack of speed or running both ways, combined with backline pressing too high means that when the ball transitions from our forward line often with 30 plus players in it, to the other end, when our forwards and mids don’t chase, the opposition have 1-2-3 players streaming into our backline typically three on three , so we end up outnumbered and the opposition scores. This is the major reason our backline is leaking like a sieve, and this happens more at the “G” with more open spaces. probably why we are winning at Etihad as a narrow ground!

When you like at the Tigers backline there back six hold deeper than most teams and almost have a goalkeeper guarding the goals. Their forwards use manic pressure, and supported by their mids, retain the ball in the forward line, without the backs typically joining in. Then when they have to defend their mids really run, and forwards if need be!

As Lever settled in our back six were starting to hold deeper and someone guarded the goals. Since he went down, we’ve lost structure and shape in the backline. Pies pantsed us out of the middle and missing Lever really hurt, against Port umpires killed us, but we were too short down back, and last week Petty was either not ready or incredibly nervous, and adding Petty debut next to Joel Smith game6-7 was not very smart.

in all our ‘G’ losses the number of opposition breaks down a wing with no Demons in sight is depressing. When you play Tyson, Lewis, Petty, Hannan & Weideman is is amplified.

This weeks selections of Spargo, Stretch, Garlett & Frost bring in more speed than who they replaced, and hopefully two way run & tackling pressure.

That’s e-nuff from me! Looking at the wild weather at Mornington beach, might be a good day to be playing in Darwin. Go Demons, pump those Dockers!!!

 

[binman 42,842]

41 minutes ago, D4Life said:

I’ve unfortunately seen all of our losses at the “G” this year, starting with Cats, Hawks, Tigers, Pies & Saints. In all of them our lack of speed or running both ways, combined with backline pressing too high means that when the ball transitions from our forward line often with 30 plus players in it, to the other end, when our forwards and mids don’t chase, the opposition have 1-2-3 players streaming into our backline typically three on three , so we end up outnumbered and the opposition scores. This is the major reason our backline is leaking like a sieve, and this happens more at the “G” with more open spaces. probably why we are winning at Etihad as a narrow ground!

When you like at the Tigers backline there back six hold deeper than most teams and almost have a goalkeeper guarding the goals. Their forwards use manic pressure, and supported by their mids, retain the ball in the forward line, without the backs typically joining in. Then when they have to defend their mids really run, and forwards if need be!

As Lever settled in our back six were starting to hold deeper and someone guarded the goals. Since he went down, we’ve lost structure and shape in the backline. Pies pantsed us out of the middle and missing Lever really hurt, against Port umpires killed us, but we were too short down back, and last week Petty was either not ready or incredibly nervous, and adding Petty debut next to Joel Smith game6-7 was not very smart.

in all our ‘G’ losses the number of opposition breaks down a wing with no Demons in sight is depressing. When you play Tyson, Lewis, Petty, Hannan & Weideman is is amplified.

This weeks selections of Spargo, Stretch, Garlett & Frost bring in more speed than who they replaced, and hopefully two way run & tackling pressure.

That’s e-nuff from me! Looking at the wild weather at Mornington beach, might be a good day to be playing in Darwin. Go Demons, pump those Dockers!!!

 

Good post.

The tigers just suffocate teams don't they.

In addition to getting back hard when required they are terrific at running to the next player in the opposition  tic tac chain and slowing their progress forward. Which in turn allows more players to get back and help their defenders out.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,162]

1 hour ago, D4Life said:

 

As Lever settled in our back six were starting to hold deeper and someone guarded the goals. Since he went down, we’ve lost structure and shape in the backline. Pies pantsed us out of the middle and missing Lever really hurt, against Port umpires killed us, but we were too short down back, and last week Petty was either not ready or incredibly nervous, and adding Petty debut next to Joel Smith game6-7 was not very smart.

 

 

Who would think it is that hard to have someone hold back. Being it was not always Lever It is beyond me why you need to pay someone as much as we did Lever to remind someone to hold the line. Petty last week was nervous and found himself under speed he would not have seen on a bigger ground than he would be used to defending. He seemed to get continually caught between players in the AFLs version of no mans land. Wont be the first or last to have a poor debut but a great learning experience to build on at VFL level. 

[rolling fog 1,207]

On 7/6/2018 at 8:48 AM, samcantstandya said:

No I think he needs 2 work on some aspects of his game. Y get rid of him but keep some other NQRS who r not in his league eg Wagner etc

Completely agree - however I just reckon both parties are seeing the writing on the wall now

[Redleg 40,888]

15 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

You could have Parish over Oliver as well. Win some/Lose some.

Agree. It is just some of the glaring ones stay with you, when you realize that a few changed decisions could have seen us with Martin, Wines and Curnow recently to name just three. How different would our team be then?

But yes, every team can look back and say the same.  As you say, win some/lose some. 

[binman 42,842]

10 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Agree. It is just some of the glaring ones stay with you, when you realize that a few changed decisions could have seen us with Martin, Wines and Curnow recently to name just three. How different would our team be then?

But yes, every team can look back and say the same.  As you say, win some/lose some. 

Curnow looks the goods doesn't he.

I still have faith weed will be good for us but whilst big blokes take time you would hope he would be pretty close to being a permanent member of our side by the end of this year givwn next year is his fourth at afl level

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

16 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Agree. It is just some of the glaring ones stay with you, when you realize that a few changed decisions could have seen us with Martin, Wines and Curnow recently to name just three. How different would our team be then?

But yes, every team can look back and say the same.  As you say, win some/lose some. 

Yes the draft is a lottery but the Wines/Toumpas draft was a monumental lose in a first round scenario. That was the choice of incompetence. 

Edited July 7, 2018 by america de cali

[Gator 17,332]

Garlett is always going to play better at AFL level than VFL.  If you're waiting for him to tear up games at Casey you'll be waiting a long time.

If his pressure in the F50 is up he'll get rewarded.  Obviously, it's remained pretty ordinary and we were also into a long winning streak, which didn't help his cause.

We're a better team when Garlett's head is in the game.

Edited July 7, 2018 by ProDee