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2 minutes ago, Macca said:

Did it with ease.

Apparently it was meant to be called Barocca but someone misspelt the name on application.

But Barocca never worked anyway ... another great con job of the 20th century.  Hair of the dog or a greasy hamburger did the trick.

Will watch Barocha with interest though.  Big call Biff but you never know.

It's one of those nags that has the huge stride and his 3rd gear is better than others 5th gear.

It's a career all-up horse.

20 wins even at $1.30-$1.80 add up to huge money.

 
7 minutes ago, Biffen said:

It's one of those nags that has the huge stride and his 3rd gear is better than others 5th gear.

It's a career all-up horse.

20 wins even at $1.30-$1.80 add up to huge money.

Cruised past like a good horse alright ... and at this time of year the connections could somehow fast track the horse into some stake races or compete at Benchmark level for it's next few.

'Dee Zephyr' might have more of an idea of the pathway the horse can take from here on in.  It's a 4yo so the guineas races are out.

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13 hours ago, Macca said:

Cruised past like a good horse alright ... and at this time of year the connections could somehow fast track the horse into some stake races or compete at Benchmark level for it's next few.

'Dee Zephyr' might have more of an idea of the pathway the horse can take from here on in.  It's a 4yo so the guineas races are out.

Yeah, impressive Macca. They might opt with the old ‘ going through the grades’ with Barocha until something decent pops up during the spring.

Sometimes we need to ignore the types a certain horse beats and just look at the how. There’s something there, had a similar feeling after watching Cherry Tortoni win a country maiden in style then go onto winning another  two in town.

An ADATR watch for sure.

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12 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Yeah, impressive Macca. They might opt with the old ‘ going through the grades’ with Barach until something decent pops up during the spring.

Sometimes we need to ignore the types a certain horse beats and just look at the how. There’s something there, had a similar feeling after watching Cherry Tortoni win a country maiden in style then go onto winning another  two in town.

An ADATR watch for sure.

We should do a 'One to Watch' segment every now and again ... early in the week would suit but sometimes one needs to say something as it happens (as Biff did yesterday)

'Showmanship' is my one to watch going forward.  Beat home one of our picks but thems the breaks.  Looks a real goodin'

And if Nature Strip is regarded as one of the best what about Gytrash?  Most impressive.  Nearly broke the track record (00.55.81 over the 1000m) in winning on Saturday so it wasn't so much about Nature Strip failing first up.

Bella Vella & Creedence keep winning too.  Creedence is a good honest horse whilst Bella Vella is a much improved sprinter.

Must be something in the water over in South Australia!

Bella Vella I agree with @Macca

In my black book and I’m interested in keeping an eye on I am superman

Behemoth, I am Superman and Showmanship run on the 19th, there is my trifecta ?

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Midweek Special (Wednesday)

Sandown Race 9 No.5 Approach Discreet (Win) $6.50 ... D Oliver on board

Replays from Saturday - Australia (overseas Group 1 replays in the following post)

 

 

 

 

 

And the overseas Group 1's ... got a couple of winners out of this lot.  Top notch racing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Race 3 #7 at Sandown tomorrow The Brumby good each way chance  

On 9/7/2020 at 7:21 PM, Macca said:

Midweek Special (Wednesday)

Sandown Race 9 No.5 Approach Discreet (Win) $6.50 ... D Oliver on board

Scratched now mate.


17 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Scratched now mate.

Yeah I saw that Gorg

Haven't really got anything else as a standout although I am having a few bets.

However,  I generally follow James McDonald on a Wednesday up in Sydney.  He will often get 2 or 3 winners but is on a lot of the better horses.  So look for the value is my tip.

Or if you get hold of Gator's tips for Sandown (using those tips for the exotics?)

Apart from the G1 Makybe Diva Stakes there are a total of 6 x G2 races as well as 4 x Listed races to be run on Saturday.  The carnival is starting to warm up with many of the good horses engaged. 

Good luck punters!

 

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As Wadda has mentioned,  let's try and keep our best bets to different races.  Newcomers are always welcome but always remember that your best bet is for others to indulge in!  We don't keep individual tallies,  it's all about the team!

Personally,  I always give my choice a lot of thought.  The horse has to jump out at me (Metaphorically speaking of course)

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THE CUP WEIGHTS

MELBOURNE CUP (3200m)

Tuesday, November 3

 

58.5kg

ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) 5H (Aidan O’Brien)

57kg

AVILIUS (GB) 7G (James Cummings)

SOVEREIGN (IRE) 5H (Aidan O’Brien)

VOW AND DECLARE 5G (Danny O’Brien)

56kg

MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) 6G (Joseph O’Brien)

TELECASTER (GB) 5H (Hughie Morrison)

55.5kg

REGAL POWER 5G ( Grant & Alana Williams)

SIR DRAGONET (IRE) 5H ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) 8G (Joseph O’Brien)

55kg

BUCKHURST (IRE) 5H (Joseph O’Brien)

MIRAGE DANCER (GB) 7H ( Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young)

MUSTAJEER (GB) 8G (Kris Lees)

STRATUM (GB) 8G (William Mullins)

VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) 5M (Chris Waller)

54.5kg

DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB) 5G (Andrew Balding)

FINCHE (GB) 7G (Chris Waller)

NANCHO (GER) 6G (Anthony Cummings)

PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB) 8G (Charlie Fellowes)

SURPRISE BABY (NZ) 6G (Paul Preusker)

YOUNG RASCAL (FR) 6G (Archie Alexander)

54kg

CAPE OF GOOD HOPE (IRE) 5H ( Tom Dabernig & Ben Hayes)

MR QUICKIE 5G (Phillip Stokes)

PATRICK SARSFIELD (FR) 5H (Joseph O’Brien)

RED VERDON (USA) 8G (Ed Dunlop)

53.5kg

CONSTANTINOPLE (IRE) 5G ( Tom Dabernig & Ben Hayes)

DANCETERIA (FR) 6G (Kris Lees)

EAGLES BY DAY (IRE) 5H (David O’Meara)

KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) 6G (Danny O’Brien)

LEVENDI 6H (Peter Gelagotis)

MASTER OF WINE (GER) 6G ( Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes)

MUGATOO (IRE) 6G (Kris Lees)

NICKAJACK CAVE (IRE) 5G (Peter G Moody)

QUICK THINKER 4H ( Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman)

RAHEEN HOUSE (IRE) 7G (Kris Lees)

RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) 4H (Danny O’Brien)

SAN HUBERTO (IRE) 5H (Fabrice Chappet)

SANTIAGO (IRE) 4H (Aidan O’Brien)

THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) 5H ( Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman)

53kg

ANGEL OF TRUTH 5G ( Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes)

ARCADIA QUEEN 5M ( Grant & Alana Williams)

ASHRUN (FR) 5H (Andreas Wohler)

PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) 5G (Peter G Moody)

WARNING 4G ( Anthony & Sam Freedman)

52.5kg

DR DRILL (GB) 6G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

ETAH JAMES (NZ) 8M ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

HUSH WRITER (JPN) 6G ( Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott)

LE DON DE VIE (GB) 5G (Hughie Morrison)

PORT GUILLAUME (FR) 4H (Jean-Claude Rouget)

SKYWARD (FR) 5H (Fabrice Chappet)

STEEL PRINCE (IRE) 7G ( Anthony & Sam Freedman)

52kg

AZURO (FR) 7G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) 7G (Chris Waller)

CARIF 5H ( Peter & Paul Snowden)

COLETTE 4M (James Cummings)

HAKY (IRE) 7G (Archie Alexander)

MISS SISKA 7M (Matthew Smith)

SHARED AMBITION (IRE) 5G (Chris Waller)

SOUND (GER) 8H (Michael Moroney)

TRUE SELF (IRE) 8M (William Mullins)

WEEKENDER (GB) 7G (Mark Newnham)

ZEBROWSKI (NZ) 4G ( Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes)

51.5kg

FURRION (GB) 6G ( Tom Dabernig & Ben Hayes)

MAHAMEDEIS 6G (Nick Ryan)

MISS SENTIMENTAL (NZ) 5M (Chris Waller)

OCEANEX (NZ) 5M ( Mick Price & Michael Kent (Jnr))

PRINCESS JENNI (NZ) 5M (David Brideoake)

51kg

AKTAU (GB) 5G (Michael Moroney)

AL GALAYEL (IRE) 7G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

BIG DUKE (IRE) 9G (Kris Lees)

DJANGO FREEMAN (GER) 5H (Robert Hickmott)

GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) 8H (Archie Alexander)

HARBOUR VIEWS (FR) 6G (Matthew Williams)

INVERLOCH (IRE) 7G ( Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young)

MIAMI BOUND (NZ) 4M (Danny O’Brien)

NONCONFORMIST 4G (Grahame Begg)

PONDUS (GB) 5G (Joseph O’Brien)

SIR CHARLES ROAD 7G ( Lance O’Sullivan & Andrew Scott)

SUPER TITUS (GB) 7G ( Tom Dabernig & Ben Hayes)

TOFFEE TONGUE (NZ) 4M (Chris Waller)

WOLFE (JPN) 6G ( Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott)

50.5kg

CHAPADA 5G (Michael Moroney)

CREEDENCE 6G (Matt Cumani)

GREY LION (IRE) 9G (Matthew Smith)

LORD BELVEDERE (GB) 7G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

NORWAY (IRE) 5G (Chris Waller)

PATHS OF GLORY (GB) 6G ( Richard & Michael Freedman)

SCHABAU (GER) 6H (Robert Hickmott)

SWEET THOMAS (GER) 9G (Matthew Smith)

VIN DE DANCE (NZ) 6G (Symon Wilde)

50kg

ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN) 7H (Paul Preusker)

ADMIRE WINNER (JPN) 7G (Paul Preusker)

ALIFEROUS 5M (Kris Lees)

ALMANIA (IRE) 5G (Kris Lees)

AMERICAN WHISKEY (USA) 4H ( Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes)

ATTENTION RUN (GER) 6M (Kris Lees)

ATTORNEY (FR) 6G (Matthew Smith)

BARADE (FR) 6G (Archie Alexander)

BARTHOLOMEU DIAS (GB) 6G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

BENITOITE 5M (Clinton McDonald)

BOLLEVILLE (IRE) 5M (Joseph O’Brien)

CADRE DU NOIR (USA) 5H ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

COLLIDE (GB) 6H (Kris Lees)

CORMORANT (IRE) 4H (Aidan O’Brien)

CRACK ON CRACK ON (GB) 6G ( Gary & John Moore)

DADOOZDART (GB) 5G ( Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes)

DAWN PATROL (IRE) 4H (Aidan O’Brien)

DEGRAVES (IRE) 4H (Joseph O’Brien)

DELPHI (IRE) 4H ( Anthony & Sam Freedman)

DJUKON (GB) 5G (Chris Waller)

DON’T DOUBT DORY 4G (Julien Welsh)

ENGLISH KING (FR) 4H (Ed Walker)

ENTENTE 4G ( Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott)

EXEMPLAR (IRE) 7G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

FEEL THE RUSH (NZ) 4M ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

FLASH AAH 5G (Mitchell Fry)

FRANKELY AWESOME 5M (Kris Lees)

FUN FACT 5G (Bjorn Baker)

FUTURE SCORE (IRE) 6G (Matt Cumani)

GAME KEEPER 4G ( Tony & Calvin McEvoy)

GLORY DAYS (NZ) 8M (Bill Thurlow)

GOOD IDEA 6G (Phillip Stokes)

GRAND PROMENADE (GB) 5G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

HIGH EMOCEAN (NZ) 4M ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

IMPACTFUL 4G (Chris Waller)

IN GOOD HEALTH 5M (Peter G Moody)

INVOLVED (GB) 6G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

JACK REGAN (GB) 6G ( Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young)

JUST THINKIN’ 4G ( Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott)

KINANE (NZ) 4G (Chris Waller)

KORCHO (GB) 5H (Kris Lees)

LATIN BEAT (IRE) 7G (Saab Hasan)

LOOK SHARPISH (NZ) 4M ( Leon & Troy Corstens)

MASAFF (IRE) 5G (Chris Waller)

MIDTERM (GB) 8G ( Michael & Luke Cerchi)

MILESTONE (FR) 5H ( Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young)

MIRIMAR (IRE) 7G (Michael Moroney)

MIYAKE 4H (Chris Waller)

MYTHICAL (FR) 4H (Aidan O’Brien)

NAVAL WARFARE (IRE) 7G ( Anthony & Sam Freedman)

NIMALEE 4M (Matthew Smith)

NOBEL PRIZE (IRE) 4H (Aidan O’Brien)

NORTHWEST PASSAGE 7G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

ORDER OF AUSTRALIA (IRE) 4H (Aidan O’Brien)

ORDEROFTHEGARTER (IRE) 7H (Danny O’Brien)

OUT OF THE PARK (NZ) 6M (Henry Dwyer)

PELONOMENA 6M (Michael Kent)

PERSAN 4H ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

REALM OF FLOWERS 4M ( Anthony & Sam Freedman)

RIDER IN THE SNOW (FR) 6G (Kris Lees)

RONDINELLA (NZ) 6M (John O’Shea)

ROYAL CROWN 4G (Michael Kent)

SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) 6G (Danny O’Brien)

SAUNTER BOY (FR) 8G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

SAVVY LAD (NZ) 4G ( Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young)

SELINO (GB) 5G (James Fanshawe)

SHE’S IDEEL 5M (Bjorn Baker)

SIERRA SUE (NZ) 4M ( Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young)

SIN TO WIN (NZ) 8G ( Tom Dabernig & Ben Hayes)

SKELM 6G (Terry Kelly)

SOUND OF CANNONS (GB) 4H (John O’Shea)

SOUTH PACIFIC (GB) 5H ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

SUPER GIRL 6M (Josh Julius)

TAVIRUN (NZ) 5G ( Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young)

THE KING (IRE) 6G (Lindsey Smith)

THINK IT OVER 5G (Kerry Parker)

TIGER MOTH (IRE) 4H (Aidan O’Brien)

TINANDALI (IRE) 5G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

TORRENS 4H (Ethan Ensby)

VOYAGE DE LUNE 4G (Saab Hasan)

WALL OF FIRE (IRE) 8G ( Ciaron Maher & David Eustace)

WYCLIF (GB) 4H (Danny O’Brien)

YONKERS (USA) 5G (Chris Waller)

ZACADA (NZ) 8G ( Jim & Greg Lee)

ZAMOSA (NZ) 5M (Mitchell Fry)

49kg

ALCYONE 3C (James Cummings)

Best Bet Saturday

Rosehill Race 8 No.8 Fasika $2.50 (W)

Ahhh...

Thought it was going to real the leader in with 100m to go. Wish I went EW  $2.60 would have been nice... Didn't help it was running sideways around the turn.

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4 minutes ago, JV7 said:

Ahhh...

Thought it was going to real the leader in with 100m to go. Wish I went EW  $2.60 would have been nice... Didn't help it was running sideways around the turn.

Much appreciated anyway Vin. Sure did look the winner I thought , top run albeit a little green. Showed a good turn of foot in a 975m race. 

On 9/6/2020 at 9:32 PM, Biffen said:

 

 

On 9/7/2020 at 11:53 AM, Gorgoroth said:

 

2 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

 

 

2 hours ago, JV7 said:

 

 

1 hour ago, Dee Zephyr said:

 

...And 'Rolling Fog'

Interested in posters thoughts with regards to the Makybe Diva Group1

I've got Master of Wine as my best bet (place only) but I'm thinking of taking out a box Tri or Box F4.

As much as it's often best to leave the best bet races alone I don't want to curtail any conversations on a big Group 1.

I do fancy Master of Wine but the exotics could pay a bit on the race.

So feel free to proffer up your choice

The event is Race 7 and the field,  form & odds in a post above (near the top of the page)

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24 minutes ago, Macca said:

..And 'Rolling Fog'

Interested in posters thoughts with regards to the Makybe Diva Group1

I've got Master of Wine as my best bet (place only) but I'm thinking of taking out a box Tri or Box F4.

As much as it's often best to leave the best bet races alone I don't want to curtail any conversations on a big Group 1.

I do fancy Master of Wine but the exotics could pay a bit on the race.

So feel free to proffer up your choice

For what it’s worth Macca, if Master Of Wine brings his best he goes very close to winning it imo. I will be including Miami Bound ($23) in my F4. Just need to find the rest.

Also keeping a keen eye on Russian Camelot and Arcadia Queen in the Let’s Elope

My early Cups/Cox multi reads -

Master - Caulfield Cup 

Arcadia Queen - Cox

Russian - Melb Cup.

A few cups of coffee on at 1350-1 and Greek Islands here we come, whenever they let us out of course.

 
41 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

For what it’s worth Macca, if Master Of Wine brings his best he goes very close to winning it imo. I will be including Miami Bound ($23) in my F4. Just need to find the rest.

Also keeping a keen eye on Russian Camelot and Arcadia Queen in the Let’s Elope

My early Cups/Cox multi reads -

Master - Caulfield Cup 

Arcadia Queen - Cox

Russian - Melb Cup.

A few cups of coffee on at 1350-1 and Greek Islands here we come, whenever they let us out of course.

Fair bit of value already with Master of Wine & Miami Bound.  And to be honest I'd rather trust the collective knowledge of the ADATR crew than my own thoughts. 

Boxing 6 with a small outlay can still pay a decent dividend especially with a F4.  I first struck upon the idea when you made mention of a collect in the Caulfield Cup (?) a couple of years ago.  Think it was a Box 6 F4 IIRC.


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