1 minute ago, DemonLad5 said:

Did anyone hear Plough's list analysis on us last night?

To sum it up, he said it is the best list out of teams outside the 8. Thinks we have a good chance of finals next year and should definitely play finals in 2018.

Said the group still lacks maturity. We are addressing our need with Hibberd. Lack of maturity got exposed in the last 2 weeks. Still need someone with class and elite kicking skills.

At the end, Damian Barrett said he believed that Melbourne could still throw another curve ball in this trade period. 

Thoughts?

Here's the audio too:

https://audioboom.com/boos/5148849-the-list-manager-melbourne

 

10 minutes ago, stuie said:

Have you examined O'Meara? Have you seen his medical file? As someone who works in the fitness industry surely you'd know every situation is different, and you would know how credentialed and experienced a senior doctor for an AFL club would be.

As far as the "out for 2 years" thing goes, he did actually come back this year but when he experienced soreness they took a conservative approach in order to get him right for 2017. He was looking sensational before that too. 

I would back in the Hawthorn doctor on this one and say that given he was confident enough to tell the Hawks to go for it then there's a pretty decent chance he can get right and play some good footy.

Of course, I'm not sure what you would have said if we had traded Gawn for say Maric back in the day...

 

Look Stuie you're missing the point. 

can you be 100% sure there is no risk to O'meara, as you said you can't, the Hawks are clearly backing themselves to get him right, good on them,  i am questioning trading Shiel, not bringing in O'meara. 

they need to re-build their midfield, i reckon giving away a good-very good midfielder for a very good but injury prone one isn't the way to do that, just my opinion

i'd much rather see them trade Bruest for example who i see as less essential if you like.

but this has nothing to do with the Dees 

Just now, Abe said:

Look Stuie you're missing the point. 

can you be 100% sure there is no risk to O'meara, as you said you can't, the Hawks are clearly backing themselves to get him right, good on them,  i am questioning trading Shiel, not bringing in O'meara. 

they need to re-build their midfield, i reckon giving away a good-very good midfielder for a very good but injury prone one isn't the way to do that, just my opinion

i'd much rather see them trade Bruest for example who i see as less essential if you like.

but this has nothing to do with the Dees 

I'm not missing the point mate, I'm saying I'd back in the doctor of the most successful AFL club in the country to get it right in regards to bringing in an extremely talented midfielder and that, given that, there's very little chance he will "retire without playing another game".

You've got to trade something good to get something good, Demonland sometimes forgets that this time of year.

 

Just now, stuie said:

I'm not missing the point mate, I'm saying I'd back in the doctor of the most successful AFL club in the country to get it right in regards to bringing in an extremely talented midfielder and that, given that, there's very little chance he will "retire without playing another game".

You've got to trade something good to get something good, Demonland sometimes forgets that this time of year.

 

Simply saying i wouldn't do that trade personally, just my opinion. 

o'meara probably is about a 50/50 risk injuries wise

Just now, Abe said:

Simply saying i wouldn't do that trade personally, just my opinion. 

Fair enough mate! I do get where you're coming from, you're a "play it safe" man. I'm just a fan of O'Meara in full flight.

 

7 minutes ago, stuie said:

Fair enough mate! I do get where you're coming from, you're a "play it safe" man. I'm just a fan of O'Meara in full flight.

 

He's a bloody good player when fully fit, my concern is that the Hawks need to re-build their midfield and giving up one of the only good mids of the right age profile they have seems like it would be a bad result, especially given risks and so on. 

if they could get the deal done with another player i reckon they should jump at it.

12 minutes ago, Abe said:

He's a bloody good player when fully fit, my concern is that the Hawks need to re-build their midfield and giving up one of the only good mids of the right age profile they have seems like it would be a bad result, especially given risks and so on. 

if they could get the deal done with another player i reckon they should jump at it.

I don't understand why they rate Bruest so highly within the context of their whole list. How many small forwards does a club need?

Edited October 11, 20168 yr by DominatrixTyson

1 minute ago, DominatrixTyson said:

I don't understand why they rate Bruest so highly within the context of their whole list. How many small forwards does a club need?

me either, would personally be happy to move him on to get someone like O'meara in the door

38 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

o'meara probably is about a 50/50 risk injuries wise

With only probably the Hawks able to survive the flak if it backfired. 

Damien Barrett reporting that the Tigers are asking for Josh Caddy in a swap for Brett Deledio, 

must say i don't rate Caddy as any more than a solid B grade player and a fully fit lids is definitely an A grader, but his age and Salary are a concern in that deal

thoughts?

1 minute ago, Abe said:

Damien Barrett reporting that the Tigers are asking for Josh Caddy in a swap for Brett Deledio, 

must say i don't rate Caddy as any more than a solid B grade player and a fully fit lids is definitely an A grader, but his age and Salary are a concern in that deal

thoughts?

Tricky one because as you said you have to take age and salary into it.

Do you take a player who has 3 years left at say 700k, or one who has 8 years left at 500k? In Richmond's situation, I'd be going for Caddy if it was as simple as a choice between the two players.

 

1 minute ago, stuie said:

Tricky one because as you said you have to take age and salary into it.

Do you take a player who has 3 years left at say 700k, or one who has 8 years left at 500k? In Richmond's situation, I'd be going for Caddy if it was as simple as a choice between the two players.

 

A fully fit Lids takes so much pressure of Dangerfield and Selwood and i don't think the loss of Caddy will be hugely missed, so i reckon it's win-win, given the Cats are chasing a flag and Lids might get them over the line, and the Tigers are probably 3-4 years away yet. 

Salary and Salary cap for the cats being the biggest hurdle

2 minutes ago, Abe said:

A fully fit Lids takes so much pressure of Dangerfield and Selwood and i don't think the loss of Caddy will be hugely missed, so i reckon it's win-win, given the Cats are chasing a flag and Lids might get them over the line, and the Tigers are probably 3-4 years away yet. 

Salary and Salary cap for the cats being the biggest hurdle

Not if they let us have Tuohy...

 

18 minutes ago, Abe said:

Damien Barrett reporting that the Tigers are asking for Josh Caddy in a swap for Brett Deledio, 

must say i don't rate Caddy as any more than a solid B grade player and a fully fit lids is definitely an A grader, but his age and Salary are a concern in that deal

thoughts?

Kind of strange. There'd be others the Tiges would have enquired about, surely. Caddy is thoroughly underwhelming.

I want to personally thank Josh Mahoney for trading away our 1st round pick as this is the first time in years I havent listened to trade radio.

4 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

I want to personally thank Josh Mahoney for trading away our 1st round pick as this is the first time in years I havent listened to trade radio.

Would you like to return Weid and get another inside midfielder in the draft this year? I know what my answer would be 

Edited October 11, 20168 yr by DemonLad5

Just now, DemonLad5 said:

Would you like to return Weid and get another inside midfielder in the draft this year? I know what my answer would be 

Don't think that was his point mate...

 

4 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Would you like to return Weid and get another inside midfielder in the draft this year? I know what my answer would be 

 

3 minutes ago, stuie said:

Don't think that was his point mate...

 

 

Yup, point is I have been spared the horror of listening to two weeks of Barrett and Wallace dribble on before all the trades get done in the last 2 days.  Thanks Mr Mahoney!

17 minutes ago, Luther said:

Kind of strange. There'd be others the Tiges would have enquired about, surely. Caddy is thoroughly underwhelming.

apparently good mates with Carracella who's now an assistant at the Tigers

4 minutes ago, Abe said:

apparently good mates with Carracella who's now an assistant at the Tigers

Well he's not much more than an ordinary footballer and he's a very ordinary bloke. 

If I were a Richmond supporter and that ended up being the trade I'd be really pi$$ed.

Edited October 11, 20168 yr by Luther

Early on there were mentions of us showing interest in Tom Cutler from Brisbane. No noise on this of late. Anyone have any insights? 

Wells is officially a Magpie. North get pick 32 as compo.

 

3 minutes ago, stuie said:

Wells is officially a Magpie. North get pick 32 as compo.

 

600k a year for 3 years. 

Big risk if he can't get on the park. 

Considering Wells turns 32 at the start of next year, I can't see his body getting any better.