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4 minutes ago, Jesus Hoganshaw said:

Smith doesn't cost us a place on the list, he's a Cat B rookie. If he doesn't work out then no harm, no foul.

And in the meantime, another player for Casey!

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29 minutes ago, Mad_Melbourne said:

Firstly, I don't agree with your sentiment on Spencer White (who is not up to the grade and clearly not up to the grade) and Jake Lovett (didn't set the world on fire at TAC cup level, giving him a chance to play at Casey without using a draft pick is great.)

secondly Terlich and Jones both were contracted, therefore we either pay them out, highly unlikely, or we have them around this year, which is the case. 

18 players on our list have played less than 21 games, I think that indicates we have a whole list of prospect and developing players. 

Personally, Smith has athletic attributes (repeat sprint and decent vertical) which can translate to playing AFL, his natural hand eye will also help. Will he make it, who knows, but I think these attributes combined with a full time AFL environment could see him develop into a mid sized defender. 

Yeh fair enough. And yes I meant pay them out and bring in something productive. Terlich would be on a small amount, not the end of the world. White kicked 3 goals in an Afl game in a losing side, he has something, Terlich has nothing. And I understand smith isn't on our list, I was just commenting on how hard it is to be a quality afl player and I don't think you can just show up and play cause you were good at basketball and can jump. Hopefully he develops quickly and brings something to the table. And if not a white/Lovett, there's a heap of blokes like Mark Baguley running around Vfl in there mid 20s who would blossom in the right environment. He was playing local footy at 21 now he's one of the best small defenders in the league and a vc where as Terlich/Jones are just biding their time before they get the chop

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2 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

The constant Saty criticism here is so absolutely boring. And mindless.

Would everyone please just keep to the topic. And stop personally attacking other posters.

Living in Sydney, I am grateful for every snippet of info I get about training, the players and the club generally - no matter how trivial some of it may appear to be.

For instance, the poster who reported his conversation with Petracca at training (posted above) has literally made my morning. Positivity and progress at the club and the prospect of attacking footy once again. Was pumped to read that post.

 

How is the weather up there, have the storms stopped?

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30 minutes ago, tappysquads said:

Yeh fair enough. And yes I meant pay them out and bring in something productive. Terlich would be on a small amount, not the end of the world. White kicked 3 goals in an Afl game in a losing side, he has something, Terlich has nothing. And I understand smith isn't on our list, I was just commenting on how hard it is to be a quality afl player and I don't think you can just show up and play cause you were good at basketball and can jump. Hopefully he develops quickly and brings something to the table. And if not a white/Lovett, there's a heap of blokes like Mark Baguley running around Vfl in there mid 20s who would blossom in the right environment. He was playing local footy at 21 now he's one of the best small defenders in the league and a vc where as Terlich/Jones are just biding their time before they get the chop

Why does Smith have to develop quickly? He is a B class rookie

Knowing the new regime, if the recruiting staff thought there was somebody worth looking at in the state leagues apart from Wagner, they would have perhaps looked at delisting both Terlich and Jones, no matter the cost, much to some people's disgust on here we do need both at the moment to create competition for spots, hence the decision also to rookie Michie rather than cutting him loose, we have enough young players who still need to develop, so at least 3 players who have a few years in the system to compete with them is good

 

From what I have seen at training, Matt Jones may still get a gig but Terlich may struggle to get into the side

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6 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Why does Smith have to develop quickly? He is a B class rookie

Knowing the new regime, if the recruiting staff thought there was somebody worth looking at in the state leagues apart from Wagner, they would have perhaps looked at delisting both Terlich and Jones, no matter the cost, much to some people's disgust on here we do need both at the moment to create competition for spots, hence the decision also to rookie Michie rather than cutting him loose

I said hopefully he develops quickly. Should I have said I hope he doesn't develop quickly or do you just need to correct anything anyone says?

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1 minute ago, tappysquads said:

I said hopefully he develops quickly. Should I have said I hope he doesn't develop quickly or do you just need to correct anything anyone says?

I am pleased with what we are doing now, and that is giving the kids and rookies time to develop, they set the pace, Smith is a B Class rookie, if he develops quickly, great...if he doesn't we can give him time to build his game......no more burning kids/rookies etc

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21 minutes ago, tappysquads said:

I said hopefully he develops quickly. Should I have said I hope he doesn't develop quickly or do you just need to correct anything anyone says?

What you actually said was "develops quickly and brings something to the table", I asked why he needs to do this, I wasn't correcting but asking why you think this, being interested in your answer....still am

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21 hours ago, tappysquads said:

I popped down, they were doing full match simulation the whole time I was there. White, Salem, Jetta, Garland where the best users out of half back line. I like Grimes, so watched closely, 1 from 4 of his clearances hit a target with one out of bounds and one out on the full, and one a turn over. Pedo looked good at chf, Hulk great as usual. Dom Tyson looked real good, racked up touches and used it well. At one stage Viney took on the man on the mark, got done holding the ball, was shattered, his opponent went to play on straight away and JV rag dolled him holding the ball back. Jones looked classy, Gawny looked very good. Stretch seemed to run to some bad places and was being ignored. Oliver was great in the wet, wins one v ones, and is so clever with his use in close. Any other questions might spark some other info as I was working at the same time.

I am also a Grimes fan but seriously it does look like events and others may well pass him by.  I would just love to be wrong, by he is running out of time to correct his disposal issues.

21 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

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Trengrove was involved in a drill with two trainers where he kicked out from goals to them, ran out, gathered the ball wheeled around and had a ping for goal. Looked good doing that. Later he was running the boundary with a bit of pace and being encouraged as he passed Nathan Jones. Moving well and body,legs etc all looked solid. He's not so far off I think.

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Great to hear that he is actually kicking the ball.

18 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

You've lost me, no injuries how do we look up forward, how many talls? I think we should only have Hogan/Watts and one other. 

 

Maybe you misunderstand....I was suggesting that he may supplant both Dawes and Pedo soon.

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16 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

What you actually said was "develops quickly and brings something to the table", I asked why he needs to do this, I wasn't correcting but asking why you think this, being interested in your answer....still am

Why I would hope a player develops quickly and brings something to the table? Not saying he needs to develop quickly, or its bad if he doesn't, I'm saying I hope he does as we would then have another player pushing for spots or delivering on match day..... 

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INTO THE GRAY by Whispering Jack

The gray drizzly conditions that faced the very few who braved the trip to Casey Fields for yesterday's Melbourne training session were in stark contrast to my last visit for a training run two years ago when a north wind blew, the temperature hovered above the forty mark and the flies were impossible [FAREWELL TO MADAME TUSSAUD]. This time, the ground had been soaked by heavy overnight rain that persisted into the morning and was still coming down when the players ran out onto the ground. Despite the conditions, it was a good standard work out but one needs to remember that the start of the season is two months away and training sessions such as these are a long way from the real thing.

Paul Roos watched proceedings from under cover in the grandstand while his assistants supervised on the field. There was a main group which did a spirited warm up and then there were others doing different forms of work, mainly rehab stuff but they were thankfully reasonably low in numbers. Jake Spencer ran on his own most of the time, Chris Dawes ran around a bit and then disappeared (from my view at least), Heitier Lumumba made a brief appearance, Jack Trengove was on the far side of the ground working with two assistants clad in red. From time to time, a player or groups of players broke off to do some specialised work, Jesse Hogan ran off on his own once or twice and later, we saw Ben Newton and Christian Petracca walking laps. Very few of the main list were missing altogether. I didn't see Dean Terlich and of course, Jake Melksham is off limits until November.

After some running and ball work, the larger part of the group was split into three groups of 10-12 in blue, green and white tops for a form of match simulation but because of their numbers, you couldn't really get a sense of their proposed positions or roles for the season.

Melbourne's midfield has been underperforming over the past decade. It has been a concern for years and to overcome this was one of Roos' main objectives on assuming his role as coach. We have seen good improvement since but in the main, it's been slow and it's hard to assess the change between seasons because of the operation of the midfield theory of relativity. By this I mean, that while we know the makeup of that division in the other clubs, it's difficult to work out how much we need to improve to reach the standard of the other midfields which themselves change from year to year.

We know that we have an abundance of youth in contention for midfield places alongside Nathan Jones and Bernie Vince, that Dom Tyson is emerging in class despite injury setbacks last year, that Jack Viney's an absolute tiger for the football, that Angus Brayshaw and Christian Salem are up and comers who could rise up the charts like a bullet and Aaron vandenBerg looks in great shape as a big bodied mid. There are also some kids like Alex Neal-Bullen, Billy Stretch and recruit Clayton Oliver who could burst their way into the mix with a few others like Matt Jones who looks stronger this year, the injured Newton and possibly Petracca if the coaches decide to play him in that role. Viv Michie looks the logical selection if the club elevates him from the rookie list. 

But how will they set up and how much will other clubs improve or come back to the field in this area? One session in the wet certainly won't answer the question and we've been through so many episodes of false hope over the years to guess. I remember not all that long ago, coming to this ground and witnessing Tom Scully and Jack Trengove light up the entire playing group in their very early days as young recruits at the club at a time when other young hopefuls with midfield promise were plentiful in number but look how that worked out?

That said, I liked the way the midfield worked together; their competitiveness stood out and if they have to fight for positions as hard as I expect they will in 2016, then there will be improvement.

Whether that improvement will translate to elevation out of the bottom third into the middle of the table and even better will, I suspect, also depend very much on a more than a few players from outside the midfield zone.

Jesse Hogan looked great in the wet. He's a big, brooding hulk of a man who stands out even at training. The competition's rising star gives the impression that in a bigger, stronger form in the next couple of seasons, he is going to take the competition by the scruff of the neck  and, in doing so, the team's fortunes could soar. I thought much the same a few years ago with Mitch Clark before he was injured but he simply lacked the support around him to enable the forward line to become a force. We bemoaned the lack of crumbers around Clark to take advantage of on ground contested situations around the big man if the opposition spoiled him. 

These days we will have Jeff Garlett, Dean Kent, Jay Kennedy-Harris and possibly Ben Kennedy to take roles up forward and that's not to mention the rapidly improving James Harmes and also Petracca who will possibly start as a half forward. The second key forward position might be problematic given Dawes' continuing leg problems but Cam Pedersen is one of those good honest toilers who could fill the bill (as well as provide some in game ruck relief) in the interim while some of the younger tall forward prospects develop. Alternatively, Sam Frost could be used there and of course, there is always the hope that Jack Watts' sublime skills finally achieve enlightenment with a mid career step up in the intensity of his output. Watts did some very nice things on the ground yesterday interspersed with the odd wet weather error but he moves so smoothly and disposes so neatly that he could become Paul Roos' last big challenge. Find him a role where that talent can finally come to the fore.

I doubt whether Max Gawn has had a true pre season since he came to the club already in rehab after his first knee reconstruction. He is experiencing one now and looks the goods. Known as a bit of a joker around the club, he could seriously force his way into the upper echelon of AFL ruckmen and if he does that, then the club gets an immediate lift. If he's injured or drops in form, it could spell trouble as there's not a great deal of back up depth. Jake Spencer is running laps at the moment and the King boys are a way off.

Tom McDonald is now the main man in what is looming as a solid defence along with the likes of Lynden Dunn, Colin Garland and I hope Frost is played there as well. Tom Bugg looks like someone who will fit in well with Nev Jetta and hopefully Lumumba will get back to his exciting best from the Collingwood years. 

Then there are the two former captains Jack Grimes and Trengove. They were dealt a harsh hand given the captaincy of a troubled club without the full support of a fractured playing group and things were made tougher for them as a result of some frustrating injuries. They are among the club's wild cards. If they can regain regular places and play to the standards they were once considered capable of reaching in mid-career, it would make an enormous difference to the club's fortunes. Grimes, who was showing some good signs late last season, trained solidly yesterday. Trengove is still in rehab from his foot injury woes, but worked out with some of the assistant coaches and did not look that far from resuming full training. Two years ago and just before his current injury flared, he played a dominant role in a NAB Challenge upset victory over Richmond. It's all a matter of luck and outside chance from here on in, but nothing will be achieved from lack of trying and Trengove appears to be working his butt off to claim his last chance to resurrect his career.

Clayton Oliver's 12 month journey from an overweight sufferer of osteitis pubis to Morrish Medallist and number four draft selection is well documented. It still worried me that Melbourne passed on such a well credentialed midfielder as Darcy Parish to get Oliver but seeing him out there in the wet competing with and against some experienced AFL bodies was mighty comforting. He could come very close to repeating Angus Brayshaw's 2015 effort of making the team for the first round. Sam Weideman moved well, has good height and I can see him getting game time later in the season. Liam Hulett already has a good build but his lack of grounding at TAC Cup level might mean he has to wait a bit longer. It was hard to draw any conclusions on Mitch King in the conditions and given that I didn't see that much ruck work in the hour that I was there.

Of the rookies, Josh Wagner didn't look lost at sea and contested well in the match simulation - I'm sure he'll get a chance during the NAB Challenge. I wasn't expecting much from Joel Smith given that he's a category B rookie coming from outside the system but he's athletic and keen and the day in the wet at Casey would have been a good tune up for him at the place that will be his home ground for the next twelve months. Here's hoping he becomes another Mark Blicavs.

After an hour, it was time to leave. I noticed Colin Garland leaving the field early but nothing looked amiss. It didn't leave me without a spring in the step in the expectation of the coming season which, after this weekend will creep up on us after the tennis and cricket are finally behind us.

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3 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Oops, my bad ... and one of the first thing I noticed was his big smile.

Of course, I'll edit the story to include him. 

I also left Mitch White out as well. ?

I thought white looked good off half back. He was actually the one I left thinking could be the early season smokey. Be interested to see others thoughts from yesterday

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56 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I am also a Grimes fan but seriously it does look like events and others may well pass him by.  I would just love to be wrong, by he is running out of time to correct his disposal issues.

Great to hear that he is actually kicking the ball.

 

Maybe you misunderstand....I was suggesting that he may supplant both Dawes and Pedo soon.

(Not being smart) I'm not on the same page, all players being available how does your forwards and backs line up?

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27 minutes ago, Demonland said:

INTO THE GRAY by Whispering Jack

The gray drizzly conditions that faced the very few who braved the trip to Casey Fields for yesterday's Melbourne training session were in stark contrast to my last visit for a training run two years ago when a north wind blew, the temperature hovered above the forty mark and the flies were impossible [FAREWELL TO MADAME TUSSAUD]. This time, the ground had been soaked by heavy overnight rain that persisted into the morning and was still coming down when the players ran out onto the ground. Despite the conditions, it was a good standard work out but one needs to remember that the start of the season is two months away and training sessions such as these are a long way from the real thing.

Paul Roos watched proceedings from under cover in the grandstand while his assistants supervised on the field. There was a main group which did a spirited warm up and then there were others doing different forms of work, mainly rehab stuff but they were thankfully reasonably low in numbers. Jake Spencer ran on his own most of the time, Chris Dawes ran around a bit and then disappeared (from my view at least), Heitier Lumumba made a brief appearance, Jack Trengove was on the far side of the ground working with two assistants clad in red. From time to time, a player or groups of players broke off to do some specialised work, Jesse Hogan ran off on his own once or twice and later, we saw Ben Newton and Christian Petracca walking laps. Very few of the main list were missing altogether. I didn't see Dean Terlich and of course, Jake Melksham is off limits until November.

After some running and ball work, the larger part of the group was split into three groups of 10-12 in blue, green and white tops for a form of match simulation but because of their numbers, you couldn't really get a sense of their proposed positions or roles for the season.

Melbourne's midfield has been underperforming over the past decade. It has been a concern for years and to overcome this was one of Roos' main objectives on assuming his role as coach. We have seen good improvement since but in the main, it's been slow and it's hard to assess the change between seasons because of the operation of the midfield theory of relativity. By this I mean, that while we know the makeup of that division in the other clubs, it's difficult to work out how much we need to improve to reach the standard of the other midfields which themselves change from year to year.

We know that we have an abundance of youth in contention for midfield places alongside Nathan Jones and Bernie Vince, that Dom Tyson is emerging in class despite injury setbacks last year, that Jack Viney's an absolute tiger for the football, that Angus Brayshaw and Christian Salem are up and comers who could rise up the charts like a bullet and Aaron vandenBerg looks in great shape as a big bodied mid. There are also some kids like Alex Neal-Bullen, Billy Stretch and recruit Clayton Oliver who could burst their way into the mix with a few others like Matt Jones who looks stronger this year, the injured Newton and possibly Petracca if the coaches decide to play him in that role. Viv Michie looks the logical selection if the club elevates him from the rookie list. 

But how will they set up and how much will other clubs improve or come back to the field in this area? One session in the wet certainly won't answer the question and we've been through so many episodes of false hope over the years to guess. I remember not all that long ago, coming to this ground and witnessing Tom Scully and Jack Trengove light up the entire playing group in their very early days as young recruits at the club at a time when other young hopefuls with midfield promise were plentiful in number but look how that worked out?

That said, I liked the way the midfield worked together; their competitiveness stood out and if they have to fight for positions as hard as I expect they will in 2016, then there will be improvement.

Whether that improvement will translate to elevation out of the bottom third into the middle of the table and even better will, I suspect, also depend very much on a more than a few players from outside the midfield zone.

Jesse Hogan looked great in the wet. He's a big, brooding hulk of a man who stands out even at training. The competition's rising star gives the impression that in a bigger, stronger form in the next couple of seasons, he is going to take the competition by the scruff of the neck  and, in doing so, the team's fortunes could soar. I thought much the same a few years ago with Mitch Clark before he was injured but he simply lacked the support around him to enable the forward line to become a force. We bemoaned the lack of crumbers around Clark to take advantage of on ground contested situations around the big man if the opposition spoiled him. 

These days we will have Jeff Garlett, Dean Kent, Jay Kennedy-Harris and possibly Ben Kennedy to take roles up forward and that's not to mention the rapidly improving James Harmes and also Petracca who will possibly start as a half forward. The second key forward position might be problematic given Dawes' continuing leg problems but Cam Pedersen is one of those good honest toilers who could fill the bill (as well as provide some in game ruck relief) in the interim while some of the younger tall forward prospects develop. Alternatively, Sam Frost could be used there and of course, there is always the hope that Jack Watts' sublime skills finally achieve enlightenment with a mid career step up in the intensity of his output. Watts did some very nice things on the ground yesterday interspersed with the odd wet weather error but he moves so smoothly and disposes so neatly that he could become Paul Roos' last big challenge. Find him a role where that talent can finally come to the fore.

I doubt whether Max Gawn has had a true pre season since he came to the club already in rehab after his first knee reconstruction. He is experiencing one now and looks the goods. Known as a bit of a joker around the club, he could seriously force his way into the upper echelon of AFL ruckmen and if he does that, then the club gets an immediate lift. If he's injured or drops in form, it could spell trouble as there's not a great deal of back up depth. Jake Spencer is running laps at the moment and the King boys are a way off.

Tom McDonald is now the main man in what is looming as a solid defence along with the likes of Lynden Dunn, Colin Garland and I hope Frost is played there as well. Tom Bugg looks like someone who will fit in well with Nev Jetta and hopefully Lumumba will get back to his exciting best from the Collingwood years. 

Then there are the two former captains Jack Grimes and Trengove. They were dealt a harsh hand given the captaincy of a troubled club without the full support of a fractured playing group and things were made tougher for them as a result of some frustrating injuries. They are among the club's wild cards. If they can regain regular places and play to the standards they were once considered capable of reaching in mid-career, it would make an enormous difference to the club's fortunes. Grimes, who was showing some good signs late last season, trained solidly yesterday. Trengove is still in rehab from his foot injury woes, but worked out with some of the assistant coaches and did not look that far from resuming full training. Two years ago and just before his current injury flared, he played a dominant role in a NAB Challenge upset victory over Richmond. It's all a matter of luck and outside chance from here on in, but nothing will be achieved from lack of trying and Trengove appears to be working his butt off to claim his last chance to resurrect his career.

Clayton Oliver's 12 month journey from an overweight sufferer of osteitis pubis to Morrish Medallist and number four draft selection is well documented. It still worried me that Melbourne passed on such a well credentialed midfielder as Darcy Parish to get Oliver but seeing him out there in the wet competing with and against some experienced AFL bodies was mighty comforting. He could come very close to repeating Angus Brayshaw's 2015 effort of making the team for the first round. Sam Weideman moved well, has good height and I can see him getting game time later in the season. Liam Hulett already has a good build but his lack of grounding at TAC Cup level might mean he has to wait a bit longer. It was hard to draw any conclusions on Mitch King in the conditions and given that I didn't see that much ruck work in the hour that I was there.

Of the rookies, Josh Wagner didn't look lost at sea and contested well in the match simulation - I'm sure he'll get a chance during the NAB Challenge. I wasn't expecting much from Joel Smith given that he's a category B rookie coming from outside the system but he's athletic and keen and the day in the wet at Casey would have been a good tune up for him at the place that will be his home ground for the next twelve months. Here's hoping he becomes another Mark Blicavs.

After an hour, it was time to leave. I noticed Colin Garland leaving the field early but nothing looked amiss. It didn't leave me without a spring in the step in the expectation of the coming season which, after this weekend will creep up on us after the tennis and cricket are finally behind us.

Isn't a backline consisting of Dunn/Garland/Tmac/Frost asking for trouble? Surely only three of the four at once.

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4 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Isn't a backline consisting of Dunn/Garland/Tmac/Frost asking for trouble? Surely only three of the four at once.

WJ, I'm the same, can't see all the love for Frost to be a lock in defence, only played 3 games for MFC, true you can see the potential, but we didn't have him in there last season and the defence did ok under pressure, let's see him earn a spot through Casey or outstanding NAB performances

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If we have 4 talls (I include Col in that) down back then Hogan/Dawes/Frost/Watts up forward we will get pummelled. Anyone remember round 20 against the Bulldogs? The win against them earlier meant little after that game. Garland might be able to defend against talls and smalls but he doesn't play small with the ball in his hand. If Col plays down back then only one of Dawes/Pedo/Frost plays up forward with Hogan and Watts.

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7 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I'm not suggesting all four at once but rather that they are the ones in the mix.

Lack of comprehension skills on my part, still think he should 'earn it', he is a bit behind in his preparation at the moment after the toe issue, only joined main group after Xmas

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8 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

WJ, I'm the same, can't see all the love for Frost to be a lock in defence, only played 3 games for MFC, true you can see the potential, but we didn't have him in there last season and the defence did ok under pressure, let's see him earn a spot through Casey or outstanding NAB performances

If I had my way I'd have Frost FB, Dunn FB and Frost playing third man up. Tall, athletic, can take a mark and would make a lot of contests to punch the ball. His disposal isn't great but neither is Garlands. Put Salem and White down there with Jetta. 

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16 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

WJ, I'm the same, can't see all the love for Frost to be a lock in defence, only played 3 games for MFC, true you can see the potential, but we didn't have him in there last season and the defence did ok under pressure, let's see him earn a spot through Casey or outstanding NAB performances

Is White of the rookie list ??

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4 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Is White of the rookie list ??

Not that I have been informed/found out/read, they don't have to make the decision just yet, who knows, could be any of the four, depending on perceived need I suppose, who performs best in pre season/NAB etc etc

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4 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Not that I have been informed/found out/read, they don't have to make the decision just yet, who knows, could be any of the four, depending on perceived need I suppose, who performs best in pre season/NAB

Cheers, 

If we can safely assume Melksham was brought in to play opposite Salem at least the club has identified the need for another good user of the footy of half back. Last year showed we have moved on from Grimes (I know many on here think he will make it back and become a regular contributor in the side, that's great I don't). I hope White can rip it up in the pre season games and get into the team. Two quality users of the footy coming out of the back half....I can only dream. 

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    Captain Max Gawn has a considerable lead over reigning champion Christian Petracca in the Demonland Player of the Year Award. Steven May, Alex Neal-Bullen & Jack Viney make up the Top 5. Your votes for the loss against the Magpies. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

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    POSTGAME: Rd 13 vs Collingwood

    Once again inaccuracy and inefficiency going inside 50 rears it's ugly head as the Demons suffered their second loss on the trot and their fourth loss in five games as they go down to the Pies by 38 points on Kings Birthday at the MCG.

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    GAMEDAY: Rd 13 vs Collingwood

    It's Game Day and the Demons are once again faced with a classic 8 point game against a traditional rival on King's Birthday at the MCG. A famous victory will see them reclaim a place in the Top 8 whereas a loss will be another blow for their finals credentials.

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    BOILED LOLLIES by The Oracle

    In the space of a month Melbourne has gone from chocolates to boiled lollies in terms of its standing as a candidate for the AFL premiership.  The club faces its moment of truth against a badly bruised up Collingwood at the MCG. A win will give it some respite but even then, it won’t be regarded particularly well being against an opponent carrying the burden of an injured playing list. A loss would be a disaster. The Demons have gone from a six/two win/loss ratio and a strong percentag

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    CLEAN HANDS by KC from Casey

    The Casey Demons headed into town and up Sydney Road to take on the lowly Coburg Lions who have been perennial VFL easy beats and sitting on one win for the season. Last year, Casey beat them in a practice match when resting their AFL listed players. That’s how bad they were. Nobody respected them on Saturday and clearly not the Demons who came to the game with 22 players (ten MFC), but whether they came out to play is another matter because for the most part, their intensity was lacking an

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