On 21/03/2016 at 06:52, Optimus D said:

Roos has indicated that Oscar MacDonald is in the mix for GWS. Maybe Garland or Dunn are under a cloud for GWS?

Isn't it more to the point that he's not ruling anyone out 3 days before match committee ?

  On 21/03/2016 at 06:40, _becks_ said:

Have seen a few teams with Kennedy, Harmes, Kent and Garlett all in the same team. Too many forward pockets for mine. Ditch one of them (Not Garlett) and add another midfielder. For the people that say they can rotate through the midfield...You don't honestly believe that do you? None of them have the fitness base for it.

But that is why they 'rotate' through the midfield.  Spend the majority up forward and then spend 5 minutes in the guts.  Garlett, in particular, was given a few centre bounces during the NAB Cup.

I do agree, however, that only 3 of the above may be picked to play on Saturday with the other (in my opinion it will be Harmes) being VERY stiff to miss.

  On 21/03/2016 at 06:40, _becks_ said:

Have seen a few teams with Kennedy, Harmes, Kent and Garlett all in the same team. Too many forward pockets for mine. Ditch one of them (Not Garlett) and add another midfielder. For the people that say they can rotate through the midfield...You don't honestly believe that do you? None of them have the fitness base for it.

I wouldn't think that Harmes is a small forward in the mould of Garlett; I would put him in the same category as Kent - a high half-forward, even wingman.  Kennedy too for that matter spent plenty of time up the ground in the NAB and at Collingwood.

  On 21/03/2016 at 06:52, Optimus D said:

Roos has indicated that Oscar MacDonald is in the mix for GWS. Maybe Garland or Dunn are under a cloud for GWS?

I believe Roos was asked specifically about Oscar McDonald as there was a match report from the weekend that had him listed in the best.  I would be very surprised to see him lining up on the weekend.

Ok, my last version of the R1 team. 

B: Jetta - Dunn - Garland
HB:Vince- T. McDonald - Salem
C: Brayshaw - Tyson - Oliver
HF: Kent - Watts - VandenBerg 
F: Garlett - Hogan - Harmes
Foll: Gawn - N.Jones - Viney
I/C: Bugg - Kennedy - M. Jones - Pedersen

Back 6 and front 6 pick themselves to my mind. Vince and Salem to launch off the HB line. Forward setup with a few very mobile talls dragging their defensive opponents all over the track. Pedersen over Frost as I feel he offers a bit more at this stage by way of scoring power. M. Jones to get a run. Do not think Lumumba is right yet and needs one more run. Midfield to take another step forward this season right from the first bounce. One thing that I do like is when Garlett gets a few minutes in the center. he is so quick in there and seems to flash in and out.

I feel this is a game we can win but we will need to be right 'on' from the very first.

Dees by 2 goals.
 

  On 21/03/2016 at 09:08, CHF said:

Ok, my last version of the R1 team. 

B: Jetta - Dunn - Garland
HB:Vince- T. McDonald - Salem
C: Brayshaw - Tyson - Oliver
HF: Kent - Watts - VandenBerg 
F: Garlett - Hogan - Harmes
Foll: Gawn - N.Jones - Viney
I/C: Bugg - Kennedy - M. Jones - Pedersen

Back 6 and front 6 pick themselves to my mind. Vince and Salem to launch off the HB line. Forward setup with a few very mobile talls dragging their defensive opponents all over the track. Pedersen over Frost as I feel he offers a bit more at this stage by way of scoring power. M. Jones to get a run. Do not think Lumumba is right yet and needs one more run. Midfield to take another step forward this season right from the first bounce. One thing that I do like is when Garlett gets a few minutes in the center. he is so quick in there and seems to flash in and out.

I feel this is a game we can win but we will need to be right 'on' from the very first.

Dees by 2 goals.
 

I like this team a lot The only possible question mark might be M Jones, And Van der things fitness . Not sure Lamumba has done enough last week at Casey,but would not be surprised at all to see him sneak in ahead of possibly.. Matt Jones! Frost also in Mix!

Dees to smash Greater Western Shizen by 5 goals and as an added bonus... Scully to be polaxed by Clarry Choo Choo!

  On 21/03/2016 at 09:30, picket fence said:

I like this team a lot The only possible question mark might be M Jones, And Van der things fitness . Not sure Lamumba has done enough last week at Casey,but would not be surprised at all to see him sneak in ahead of possibly.. Matt Jones! Frost also in Mix!

Dees to smash Greater Western Shizen by 5 goals and as an added bonus... Scully to be polaxed by Clarry Choo Choo!

Brilliant.  Spelling his actual name takes less letters, yet picket does it the hard way.

  On 21/03/2016 at 09:36, Wiseblood said:

Brilliant.  Spelling his actual name takes less letters, yet picket does it the hard way.

Yeah well, life has been hard, so a little "Literary" leeway and touch of alacrity doesn't go astray!

GO DEES !

  On 21/03/2016 at 07:59, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I believe Roos was asked specifically about Oscar McDonald as there was a match report from the weekend that had him listed in the best.  I would be very surprised to see him lining up on the weekend.

I would too. But I can't see Jay Clark saying Oscar was a chance if it wasn't somewhat true. Then Roos leaving the window open.

And if we want to play more zone defending and intercept marking then Oscar could well be a chance. He has height and endurance as an advantage over Dunn, even if he also has several weaknesses. 

I can't see it, but I expect the footy department will be keen on him during the year. 

We can't repeat the mistakes of the past by throwing out experience for youth that aren't ready, but at the same time if we want to win a flag we are going to need to develop some development time put in to quality youth. We've got the gun young midfielders who will get chances, we have to afford those same chances to other high ceiling types, particularly young talls and you speedy or skillful outsiders.

Anybody else feel like Matt Jones deserves a run before Lumumba?

  On 21/03/2016 at 11:27, Curry & Beer said:

Anybody else feel like Matt Jones deserves a run before Lumumba?

Definitely. Although I'm worried about Matt Jones coming off a concussion when he's seemingly found some composure for the first time in about 24 months and then hasn't had another hit out to settle himself. 

Also Lumumba gives us the half back option, to let Bugg or Vince tag. Although the counter to that is Matt Jones played well as a defensive forward last year.

I guess my answer is yes, but it depends how they want to use them. I think we pick our best players and look at GWS' best players and work out what fringe players we need to fill roles to complement the best group.

  On 15/03/2016 at 02:44, PaulRB said:

No, I think you've decided on Grimes and ignore any event that contradicts your negative fixed viewpoint on him, while highlighting any event that supports your negative fixed viewpoint on him. I.e. highlight one dropped mark, while ignoring the six marks he took. 

Perhaps the coaches also have concerns re Grimes being best 22 judging by his omission.

Your take ?

  On 25/03/2016 at 23:19, ProDee said:

Perhaps the coaches also have concerns re Grimes being best 22 judging by his omission.

Your take ?

You'll find I never claimed he was best 22 at present. I object to hard red lines being drawn through players as to their potential to improve and contribute.

  On 25/03/2016 at 23:36, PaulRB said:

You'll find I never claimed he was best 22 at present. I object to hard red lines being drawn through players as to their potential to improve and contribute.

Where was the "hard red line" ?

I merely gave an observation that his talent, or lack thereof, would render him out of our best 22.  

Seemingly, the coaches agree.

I guess the recent resurrection of Matt Jones highlights how these things ebb and flow.