Equalisation of Competition

[Sir Why You Little 35,394]

was more thinking of players they have been bringing in recently

take frawley at 2.5m over 4 years. if that was backended to fit him in then his salary now starts to increase. there are probably others too

Mitchell Hodge & co will take pay cuts to keep the glory rolling

They are already set up

[daisycutter 28,730]

Mitchell Hodge & co will take pay cuts to keep the glory rolling

They are already set up

let me put it another way

clubs can be, net front-enders, net back-enders or pretty much neither

a club like melb with youth and inexperience would most likely be net front-ended to avoid over-payment of players and to build a war chest

a club like the dorks with older players, more stars ans success would be most likely be net back-enders to avoid exceeding the cap and to free up some space for mature trades

i don't doubt hawks players are taking below their worth but there is only so far you can go with this and keep so many top players happy and free up some cap space

anyway that is how i see it and that is what makes me think a lot of that 800k will evaporate quickly to other back-ended contracts

[Sir Why You Little 35,394]

let me put it another way

clubs can be, net front-enders, net back-enders or pretty much neither

a club like melb with youth and inexperience would most likely be net front-ended to avoid over-payment of players and to build a war chest

a club like the dorks with older players, more stars ans success would be most likely be net back-enders to avoid exceeding the cap and to free up some space for mature trades

i don't doubt hawks players are taking below their worth but there is only so far you can go with this and keep so many top players happy and free up some cap space

anyway that is how i see it and that is what makes me think a lot of that 800k will evaporate quickly to other back-ended contracts

I see it in reverse...

[PaulRB 6,150]

I wonder when the Demons won three in a row (twice) if other clubs supporters were whining about "equalisation"?

Pre-internet, probably spoke about at the pub.

It's all about the build. Feels like we're starting to put the ingredients together to have another tilt at the top in a couple of years time...

[jnrmac 19,534]

let me put it another way

clubs can be, net front-enders, net back-enders or pretty much neither

a club like melb with youth and inexperience would most likely be net front-ended to avoid over-payment of players and to build a war chest

a club like the dorks with older players, more stars ans success would be most likely be net back-enders to avoid exceeding the cap and to free up some space for mature trades

i don't doubt hawks players are taking below their worth but there is only so far you can go with this and keep so many top players happy and free up some cap space

anyway that is how i see it and that is what makes me think a lot of that 800k will evaporate quickly to other back-ended contracts

One of the problems with front ending is that you get a decent player that isn't in the top 25 paid players but becomes a free agent - therefore the compensation is skewed...

[jnrmac 19,534]

Credit to Hawthorn.

Would love a Hawks v Port GF next year.

That would make things interesting.

You are on the wrong board if one of your teams in next year's GF is not Melbourne.

[daisycutter 28,730]

One of the problems with front ending is that you get a decent player that isn't in the top 25 paid players but becomes a free agent - therefore the compensation is skewed...

no, not the compensation, that is not affected and a different calculation

the only diff is that can make a restricted FA (8 years) into an unrestricted FA therefore no option to match offer

in reality being an ufa or a rfa doesn't seem to matter so far, although it may in the case of danger

frawley was a rfa who became an ufa because of this rule and it didn't affect compo

anyways, the afl could easily fix this anomaly by using the average pa value of the contract if they wished to

[Earl Hood 5,893]

I wonder when the Demons won three in a row (twice) if other clubs supporters were whining about "equalisation"?

Pre-internet, probably spoke about at the pub.

It's all about the build. Feels like we're starting to put the ingredients together to have another tilt at the top in a couple of years time...

I thought the VFL powers that be brought in country zoning in the late 60's expressly to deal with us. Until then Jim Cardwell used to pick the eyes out of the country leagues and Tasy, bring the recruits down to the big smoke and offer them an MCC membership and the deal was done. We got the Shyte zones and the agreement to rotate zones never happened because the Dawks, Carlton and North would not budge on their very productive zones. We got dudded earlier on metropolitan zones as well. We were dealt with then, now it's time to deal with Hawthorn.

[pitmaster 3,166]

I thought the VFL powers that be brought in country zoning in the late 60's expressly to deal with us. Until then Jim Cardwell used to pick the eyes out of the country leagues and Tasy, bring the recruits down to the big smoke and offer them an MCC membership and the deal was done. We got the Shyte zones and the agreement to rotate zones never happened because the Dawks, Carlton and North would not budge on their very productive zones. We got dudded earlier on metropolitan zones as well. We were dealt with then, now it's time to deal with Hawthorn.

Took the words right off my keyboard.

You're exactly right on both the introduction of country zones and the failure, especially by Carlton who won the Bendigo League, to allow them to rotate.

The zones were supposed to change their alliance every four years. Never did once Carlton, who were very influential in VFL circles had their paws on Bendigo.

Can you imagine kiddies?

We once had an empire like Hawthorn's and were hated even more so!

[What 18,810]

On 03/10/2015 at 6:07 PM, Hogan2014 said:

Firstly well done to Hawks as they showed what a well run, coached, trade,development & cultured club can achieve....

But this is not what the afl wants, domination by one or 2 clubs.....

In the last 15 yrs 12 premierships by 4 clubs .. Hawks 4, cats 3, lions 3, swans 2 not to mention Hawks 5 gf, cats 4 gf, lions 4 gf & swans 4 gf...

Can't see equalisation here.......

The last two seasons have shown that equalization is working.

Credit to the AFL here.

I think the Hawthorn triple premiership era was massively helped by the watered down talent pool thanks to the arrival of GWS and Gold Coast.

Now things are evening out, and we have two of the longest premiership droughts broken in consecutive years.

Heres hoping it continues.

[drdrake 3,068]

However employed Craig Cameron at GWS is trying to ensure they never reach their full potential.

[puntkick 325]

16 hours ago, drdrake said:

However employed Craig Cameron at GWS is trying to ensure they never reach their full potential.

However is employed by the AFL, if he don't understand Polo then he'll never reach his potential !