All about Mitch Clark

[nutbean 8,838]

  On 19/03/2014 at 03:48, old dee said:

Nothing to do with the thread nutbean but doing this always amuses me.

Why is it that we all do this?

We know we are going to disrespect the person so we put those three words first and then do exactly that "disrespect" them.

But then we feel ok because we put in the disclaimer.

I guess by now I should not be surprised at the human condition but I am.

I put that in for a good reason - "With all due respect, I don't want to upset you however, Don't take this wrong way but, No offense but" are phrases I seldom use but when I do see post 896

[beelzebub 23,392]

Anyone thinking his mental demons may/ought be fixable short term may be disappointed

[nutbean 8,838]

  On 19/03/2014 at 04:23, beelzebub said:

Anyone thinking his mental demons may/ought be fixable short term may be disappointed

or pleasantly surprised ?

[stuie 7,374]

  On 19/03/2014 at 04:23, beelzebub said:

Anyone thinking his mental demons may/ought be fixable short term may be disappointed

You can't assume a time frame for a problem you're also assuming, and then say it's a certainty.

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 19/03/2014 at 04:25, stuie said:

You can't assume a time frame for a problem you're also assuming, and then say it's a certainty.

the certainty I claim is there is no time frame...thats the point...well missed

many seem to think itll all but clear up in a few weeks. Im saying its highly unlikely.

What we are being told is the sanitized for domestic consumption version of everything

That hes had to step aside should surely point to it being more than just having a bad day or two. Hes has some serious issues, the least of which I would think now is his actual physical fitness. That he cant get it right has caused it seems something far more insidious.

His wellness in this instance wont happen overnight....far from it.

He has to first get his head in the right space, he has to then get his body in the right shape , he then has to get it up to speed ( whilst keeping head in right space ) and then if he makes it this far has to get match fit

hes going home....that in itself speaks to how deep it all runs.

[stuie 7,374]

  On 19/03/2014 at 04:23, beelzebub said:

Anyone thinking his mental demons may/ought be fixable short term may be disappointed

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:05, beelzebub said:

the certainty I claim is there is no time frame...thats the point...well missed

[sue 9,277]

  On 19/03/2014 at 04:12, nutbean said:

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I have been accused of sitting on the fence and happily accept that because if I don't know something I won't make a wild pronouncement either way.

What are you doing on this forum with an attitude like that?!

[chookrat 4,268]

  On 19/03/2014 at 02:31, mjt said:

If I recall people hear didn't have the sympathy when Fev broke down maybe someone should reopen that thread?

I think alot of people had sympathy for Fev's overall wellbeing, but not for the fact that he generally behaved like a [censored].

Mitch has been doing all the right things, indicated by him being voted into the LG, but by the sounds of it may have put too much pressure on himself to get right for round 1. Hopefully reducing that pressure and simply focussing on his rehab will help him get right and available to play in the first half of the season.

[beelzebub 23,392]

just for the benefitt of stuie

There is no time frame, DOES NOT mean it will be fixed quickly.. That scenario vanishes the second he has to take a leave of absence or has the gravity of this escaped you ?

No time frame means...it could be a month, could be two could be the season could be .....whatever

but it certainly wont be short term as in days or weeks which is whats really required to get his back playing this season with any effect

How can I determine that...I havent..He has...hes GOING HOME

[stuie 7,374]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:27, beelzebub said:

just for the benefitt of stuie

There is no time frame, DOES NOT mean it will be fixed quickly..

Incorrect. No time frame means it could be any time. It's a simple concept.

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:29, stuie said:

Incorrect. No time frame means it could be any time. It's a simple concept.

in this context it doesnt

you might struggle with context I grant

Can you honestly suggest he'll be back training in a month ? just asking

[daisycutter 30,004]

well we do know he is on the lti so there's 8 weeks min

[stuie 7,374]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:32, beelzebub said:

in this context it doesnt

you might struggle with context I grant

Can you honestly suggest he'll be back training in a month ? just asking

No time frame means there's no time frame.

You can't say "there's no time frame, but it will be ages", it's an oxymoronic sentence.

The whole point is NO ONE knows when he'll be back, least of all you.

[Chook 15,068]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:05, beelzebub said:

the certainty I claim is there is no time frame...thats the point...well missed

many seem to think itll all but clear up in a few weeks. Im saying its highly unlikely.

What we are being told is the sanitized for domestic consumption version of everything

That hes had to step aside should surely point to it being more than just having a bad day or two. Hes has some serious issues, the least of which I would think now is his actual physical fitness. That he cant get it right has caused it seems something far more insidious.

His wellness in this instance wont happen overnight....far from it.

He has to first get his head in the right space, he has to then get his body in the right shape , he then has to get it up to speed ( whilst keeping head in right space ) and then if he makes it this far has to get match fit

hes going home....that in itself speaks to how deep it all runs.

Stop acting like you have any better idea about what's going on than the rest of us.

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:35, Chook said:

Stop acting like you have any better idea about what's going on than the rest of us.

I dont need to act...I can deduce... Theres a lot of info there for anyone who can be bothered to interpret

that some dont and then run up the " you can tell me anything flag " is up to them . It doesnt mean theres nothing there, just because some wont open there eyes

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:34, stuie said:

No time frame means there's no time frame.

You can't say "there's no time frame, but it will be ages", it's an oxymoronic sentence.

The whole point is NO ONE knows when he'll be back, least of all you.

answer the question Stuie,,

[stuie 7,374]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:38, beelzebub said:

answer the question Stuie,,

I did. I said no one knows. How are you still not getting that?

[stuie 7,374]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:38, beelzebub said:

I dont need to act...I can deduce... Theres a lot of info there for anyone who can be bothered to interpret

that some dont and then run up the " you can tell me anything flag " is up to them . It doesnt mean theres nothing there, just because some wont open there eyes

hahahahahaha... great post...

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:40, stuie said:

I did. I said no one knows. How are you still not getting that?

Well Im telling you someone does...and he wears number 11 and hes heading back home to "think about things"

You dont want to admit the bleeding obvious

[daisycutter 30,004]

sheeesh.....where's rangey when we need a poll...............

[DemonOX 8,857]

Just had grimes on sen and he spoke about MC and how hard it is to c a team mate having issues without being able to do much for him.

He said how respectful everyone has been about his situation and also how respectful the media have been to.

Maybe some on here could follow suit.

Look forward to seeing MC back in the red and blue soon.

[stuie 7,374]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:42, beelzebub said:

Well Im telling you someone does...and he wears number 11 and hes heading back home to "think about things"

You dont want to admit the bleeding obvious

Do you know Mitch personally? One of his best mates are you? No. You don't. You know NOTHING.

Mitch wouldn't even know how long at this stage, hence having a think about things, so you have no idea, like the rest of us, that's why there's NO TIME FRAME.

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:33, daisycutter said:

well we do know he is on the lti so there's 8 weeks min

here we go.... good point

may I ask learned self how yo might then extrapolate that out as to when you might expect him to be back on the track ( at least ) ? Just asking as I suspect some reasoned answer form your good self

Also 8 weeks goes exactly to my point that its not a short term fix.

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:45, stuie said:

Do you know Mitch personally? One of his best mates are you? No. You don't. You know NOTHING.

Mitch wouldn't even know how long at this stage, hence having a think about things, so you have no idea, like the rest of us, that's why there's NO TIME FRAME.

its at least 8 weeks ...thats context..

[stuie 7,374]

  On 19/03/2014 at 05:46, beelzebub said:

its at least 8 weeks ...thats context..

Til he can play. 8 weeks is the LTI list timeframe, it has NOTHING to do with the timing of his situation.

FMD.