OUT: Abbott IN: Turnbull

[dee-luded 2,959]

India: Not a signatory to the 1951 refugee convention.

Pakistan: Why do you think they no longer play Pakistani cricket matches in Pakistan? The Taliban control large swathes of the northern Pakistan (after they were forced to retreat to after the 2001 war).

Turkey: That would be like driving to Geelong from Melbourne via Mallacoota. That being said, Turkey receives our annual quota of refugees in a month.

I think you will find that it's not a case of flying on planes to wherever. You will find that most refugees who make the journey have been mostly chewed up and spat out of refugee camps where you mostly have no hope for the future. You can't get a job. Your kids can't really get an education. It's just you, your rather meaningless UNHCR refugee status ticket (as you have no settlement country) and a long wait for resettlement.

I would also ask if you were running from official persecution, why would you give your location away by handing your passport over at an airport?

The last part is just unworkable as a general principle. Say if you were a person seeking asylum from North Korea, would you try to set up shop in the nearest port (which technically is South Korea but it's unreachable due to the DMZ)? Where do you think the next nearest 'port' is and what hopes do you think you would have of getting settled?

India don't sign anything apparently. not anything the west does anyway. not even cricket is done the right way according to them.

the point remains we cannot take all refugees from anywhere in the world... Sth East Asia & the Pacific region is our area of responsibility.

* If i was in Nth Korea, I would head to China first. the point is they may not take me. & that IS their right.

[dee-luded 2,959]

No it's about preserving our relationship with the USA. Would you rather we were totally alone and at the mercy of any nation? India is not in the Middle East.

well explain then the 'near east', 'the middle east', & 'the far east', & 'sth east asia'?

[Biffen 12,947]

:Lucky they raided 800 homes to stop the 17 year old cutting alll our heads off.

We're safe.

Thanks Tone

[Dee Fan 3,247]

:Lucky they raided 800 homes to stop the 17 year old cutting alll our heads off.

We're safe.

Thanks Tone

The life they saved may have been yours.

[Biffen 12,947]

The life they saved may have been yours.

you victim.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

you victim.

You volunteering?

[Biffen 12,947]

You volunteering?

Do you feel safer now?

Personally I detest the waste of public resources so the half wits in Canberra can win over the half wits in the electorate by claiming to have stopped a terrorist attack.

One bullet would have done the job for some delusional teen in Lakemba and kept the rest of them(jihadis) quiet.

That's why I called you a victim .

Or you are terribly naive.

The point of this war is to terrify the populace into compliance.

This is a bogus war that has no end,no result.

Except to keep you dumb.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

You seem to think this is just a ploy by politicians when it is a real and genuine threat. This servers two purposes, it stops their planned murder of some innocent bystander and takes these idiots off the street.

There was a teenager who left here, went overseas and blew himself up in a Bagdad market, do you think that was planned by the half wits in Canberra?

Don't bother replying I think I already know your answer.

[daisycutter 29,738]

war is good biffo

an excellent population control measure

and people even volunteer for it

[Earl Hood 6,101]

Back we go to Iraq with the US. It should be called Operation “Unscramble the Egg” as in lets try and fix up the mess we helped cause in the first place. Up to a few months ago there had just been 10 years of chaos and mass killings,car bombings and millions of Arab homeless refugees! And then things really spiralled out of control with ISIL I mean who was to know that the political instability in Iraq would culminate in the tragedy of two white faced Westerners being beheaded?

I'm with Tony - No choice we have to act!!

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Why were the white westerners beheaded in the first place?

It wasn't because the West stated that they were going to act was it? Let's get the story right, this is s chicken egg scenario.

Would you be happy if they went on their merry way, slaughtering all those that had a different religion or disagreed with their barbaric ideals?

Perhaps you would recommend diplomacy and maybe you'd like to take part in a delegation with the greens to visit and thrash out the problems. Or should we just wait until they've killed every single person that disagrees with them.

[Earl Hood 6,101]

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the West and our media. Who cares about the hundreds of thousands of Arabic people who have died or have been injured, displaced since the Coalition of the Willing intervened 10 years ago. When two westerners are murdered it is all too much so off we go again to do what exactly?

Edited September 19, 2014 by Earl Hood

[Guest]

India don't sign anything apparently. not anything the west does anyway. not even cricket is done the right way according to them.

the point remains we cannot take all refugees from anywhere in the world... Sth East Asia & the Pacific region is our area of responsibility.

* If i was in Nth Korea, I would head to China first. the point is they may not take me. & that IS their right.

We take a minuscule number by international and pizz a great heap of money away locking people away. We aren't even coming close to taking 'all refugees'.

* If you went to China, you wouldn't even get a hearing. They would send you straight back to the forced labor camps in North Korea. If you tried to apply for refugees status at the embassy you are a long shot as China is one of the few countries in the world that has it's own armed security guards at embassy gates.

So... in many cases for some people, it's not possible to find refuge in the so called 'next port of call' as you say.

[P-man 13,366]

Rob's back!

[Earl Hood 6,101]

Rob's back!

Please explain!

[P-man 13,366]

Please explain!

Unless I'm mistaken, I believe "Dee Fan" is our old mate RobbieF.

[Earl Hood 6,101]

Unless I'm mistaken, I believe "Dee Fan" is our old mate RobbieF.

Oh I thought we might have been dealing with Ben Hur or Hannibal?

[Biffen 12,947]

Oh I thought we might have been dealing with Ben Hur or Hannibal?

Different Bucket.

[Biffen 12,947]

You would think Frances Abbott could do something for team Australia.

[dee-luded 2,959]

We take a minuscule number by international and pizz a great heap of money away locking people away. We aren't even coming close to taking 'all refugees'.

* If you went to China, you wouldn't even get a hearing. They would send you straight back to the forced labor camps in North Korea. If you tried to apply for refugees status at the embassy you are a long shot as China is one of the few countries in the world that has it's own armed security guards at embassy gates.

So... in many cases for some people, it's not possible to find refuge in the so called 'next port of call' as you say.

so the few genuine ones then we'd take, after they've tried other countries first; but not those trying to come here first up,,, trying to force us, via embarrassing us thru the international media.

I don't mind the genuine, but not the trumped up green solicitors who seem to want a escalator into our country.

I would prefer to be able to screen & choose the ones who will fit into our culture more easily, rather than those who couldn't give a stuff about our ways & our values. just got to look at the taxi drivers who won't stop to pick you up at night, ot wnat to know where your going before they pick you up.

But if your a very drunk girl with short skirt, they seem to accept that fair. and many a girl gets more than they bargained for.

sorry CBF, I won't change on this. for me its about the type of people you allow into your home. caring ones who will respect your ways & things would be welcome. those who are envious a wanton can keep going past.

[Adrian.OB 0]

Unless I'm mistaken, I believe "Dee Fan" is our old mate RobbieF.

You are not mistaken it is definitely him and he has to know that he can run but he can't hide and we will always know what he has done and we know where he is. Karma is coming to get you RobbieF

[Bitter but optimistic 22,246]

This is not related to Tony Scabbott but Biffen is really pizzed off at the libs now,since it has emerged that they have been trying to cut in on his porno film business.

[Biffen 12,947]

Tony Robot currently has the top five newspaper articles being read across Australia.all negative.

Good work Tone!

[DemonFrog 1,356]

What a winner this guy is

[DemonFrog 1,356]

Unless I'm mistaken, I believe "Dee Fan" is our old mate RobbieF.

I would agree.

How are you RobbieF?