Saw the program tonight.

I am afraid it should be all over for Rohan Bail.

Sad but there is way more to life than football.

Please quit now Rohan.

So really, you no nothing about this topic.Leave it to the couch and keyboard men here and we will find the answer.

Sorry Biff...my bad

Amazing the coincidences in life on Sunday night channel 7 to night there is a program about concussion.

I understand it is good program.

Also heard a USA expert say last week that all episodes of concussion cause damage even one.

There is no safe level.

Easy for me to say but I reckon Bail should give up football.

Got a link to it OD? Can't find it online

Got a link to it OD? Can't find it online

Unfortunately i cannot find it either Moonshadow.

The program was the first item on "Sunday night" at 6.30 channel 7

The same guy i heard on the radio last week was on it.

Sorry mate I cannot be anymore help than that

Got a link to it OD? Can't find it online

Here's the link for people who're interested...

http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/video/watch/c299b651-1129-3986-a9a4-1e146547279a/the-price-of-playing-the-game/

If the AFL are watching what is happening in the states they will clamp down on concussed players being able to play. There are awful cases of ex NFL players killing themselves and players not having any short term memory at all. It is disturbing and I hope we never see any cases like this on our shores.

Always been staggered how a hamstring is an automatic 6 weeks,no questions asked, yet a player with concussion is in all liklihood available the next week. Just wrong ! No ifs, buts, degreees .. Coaches overruling doctors. There needs to be a far more conservative approach to managing this

Here's the link for people who're interested...

http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/video/watch/c299b651-1129-3986-a9a4-1e146547279a/the-price-of-playing-the-game/

Thanks for the heads up (pardon pun) and link fellas.

Amazing viewing. I'd strongly recommend anyone who has played contact sport watch this, or anyone who has an interest in concussion injuries take a look. I played suburban footy up to 18 and had a number of head hits, including about 5 broken noses and a few concussions which, in those days, were not tested in any way. Unless you had skull fractures, you went back on and played the next week. Otherwise you were labelled weak. I fear for Ro Bail, and I remember watching Jack Grimes getting poleaxed twice in one game at the G. Not good, long term.

Seems to me to be the single most important health issue in footy.

I remember watching my brother kick four goals in the 1st quarter in a GF match up in Sydney, before in the last 30 secs of the 1st quarter, after the whistle had been blown, and he was standing still on the boundary for the throw in, completely defenseless, when his opposition defender has run up behind him and spear tackled him into the ground so that his head bent sideways and he was knocked completely cold.

Anyway in the final quarter we were sitting on the bench together (and he was due to retire after the game, in our family we eat our body weight in Voltarin 200mg, his knees were kaput) and he was begging the coach to be on the field so that he had some memory of playing in the game. The coach relented ( my brother is very convincing ) and I was torn terribly (having seen him as a KPF get bashed in the head many time over the years). And I still feel that it was a terrible mistake for him to have gone back onto the pitch. He had an AFL career stolen from him by a thug in Frankston that destroyed his back when he was on St Kilda's list at age 18. It was another 4 years before he was able to play properly again, so we never got to see where he could have really taken his skills, so this GF game really meant something to him.

My point is to Rohan Bail's family - get him to get the very best advice from the very best neurosurgeon, he is too precious to you, and it is to hard for someone to train as hard as they do, to get where they are, to give up when they can't see the injury.

edit: doing to many thing at once with my own brain trauma - edited for some of the grammar mistakes and typos

I haven't watched the latest link on concussion.

I played a couple of seasons of the now defunct federal league.

I have kept in touch with a few guys from the league.

I remember these guys getting some horrific head injuries behind play.

They are a lot slower these days (about my age) or a bit older.

I originally thought it may have been something else that caused their change in awareness.

But like you guys, it's the amount of head high tackles that bring on these problems.

I think the AFL is correct in trying to rid our game of head high hits, I just wonder if they are going far enough.

I haven't watched the latest link on concussion.

I played a couple of seasons of the now defunct federal league.

I have kept in touch with a few guys from the league.

I remember these guys getting some horrific head injuries behind play.

They are a lot slower these days (about my age) or a bit older.

I originally thought it may have been something else that caused their change in awareness.

But like you guys, it's the amount of head high tackles that bring on these problems.

I think the AFL is correct in trying to rid our game of head high hits, I just wonder if they are going far enough.

Chippy...I also played in the old Federal League....A very tough and willing league....I still have links with two clubs in the southern comp......

I haven't noticed any slowness of the past players and if anything ...I have put it down to age.......We are all getting on now

An AFL player just said on the news (ABC) that he didn't want the league changing the rules so that it became unrecognisable. A few hits on the head playing this code will achieve that already.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/geelong-says-joel-selwood-wont-change-the-way-he-plays-despite-warnings-of-head-trauma/story-fnecrvvd-1226586139838

Our football culture feeds off the bloodlust of the profit takers. Crowds want blood, corporates who now own the game expect win-at-all-costs and young footballers do their bidding with crazy braveness. Joel Selwood's playmaking is becoming an art-form in itself (which others are mimicking) not unlike our lost diggers.

It seems sincce the biff has been taken out of the game the head first into packs not to mention professional elbow to the scone have taken its place. Plenty of lawyers waiting on the interchange bench.

Ducking your head should be a reportable offence.

Having spoken with the researchers from the Sunday Night show and they are looking for more participants for the study. So if anyone is interested in participating in the Deakin study on concussions then the details are as follows:

The aim of the study is to compare central nervous system integrity, motor and cognitive functions to age-matched who've not previously received a concussion.

They are looking for males aged between 40 to 65 years of age, 3-distinct groups:

1. Retired players at the community level who've received a concussion injury during play
2. Retired players at the elite level (AFL/VFL or equivalent) who've received a concussion injury during play
3. People who not received a concussion during their lifetime (control group)

The study involves:

• One visit (approximately 60 minutes) to Deakin University, Burwood Campus
• Measures to be taken include:
  • Health and history of concussion questionnaires
  • Memory testing on a tablet computer
  • Fine motor dexterity assessment
  • Non-invasive brain stimulation

For further information please call Dr. Alan Pearce ph 03 9251 7224, email [email protected]

this is a good read, from a few years back in the new yorker - Malcolm Gladwell

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/19/091019fa_fact_gladwell

Research about the effect of heading the ball in soccer:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/brain-damage-in-soccer-players-linked-to-heading-the-ball/story-fn63e0vj-1226587957004