Loyalty reigns supreme in Demonland

Well we can't rely purely on Neeld, Mission, and Craig... Gonna need some good players too

Sorry mate, guess that was my fault.

Your joke was gold. At least some of us got to witness it.

So what went on in Elton's John?

Can we have the Gold Joke again...

You're opinion of Jack Watts will change when he matures. This will take time just the same as it will take time for Mark Neeld. Do you think Jack's the only young player not to make a huge impact at the age of 21? Do you honestly believe Watts to quote you "hopes he won't get there".. Crazy comment.

to quote our Coach MN ..."Take off your 7 day goggles". Watts will surprise you.

Clearly I couldn't disagree more. I hope Watts becomes an A grader, but unless his intensity lifts by a mile it won't be happening. I understand that many players get better with age, but they don't have Watts' issues. He's had 4 years in the AFL system and is as soft as the day he started. That's the significant issue holding him back. Many players that get better after the age of 21 don't have that as their major stumbling block. DoBoer at Freo wasn't drafted in the ND because he was a diabolical kick. He had talent, but his kicking was such an issue recruiters didn't want to take the risk, But he was always as hard as a cat's head. DoBoer has improved his kicking immeasurably and is now a valuable member of the Dockers lineup.

Last week Watts stood Johncock and this week he was minding Sunny Walters. It's terribly embarrassing. Even "Twinkle Toes" must look over at Frawley and Tom McDonald and feel embarrassed.

Ultimately, in time, we'll know whether you're right or I am. I hope it's you, but I don't see it. The glimmer of hope that I have is that Watts has regressed under Neeld. Last year he played a few good games under Bailey in the forward-line, but Neeld has different structures, which required Watts staying closer to goal and subsequently he had to stand under more long balls, which isn't his forte. We all know he's talented and I'd like to see him in the Gunston role at Hawthorn. So I'm certainly not suggesting Watts is a complete dud, or will be a complete dud. In fact, I reckon he'll play 200 games at Melbourne. But he was a poor pick one and won't be the player we hoped he'd be. Nowhere near it. Then again, my expectations of players seems vastly different to others that post here.

Edited September 3, 201213 yr by Ben-Hur

Our Jack is yet to have "a career defining moment" for the better.A No# 1 draft pick four years in, should have at least given us a purple patch, a couple of highlights... and the longer we wait the more we doubt him.

I hope the real Jack Watts shows up in 2013.

http://youtu.be/HUm15jxuMvM

Edited September 3, 201213 yr by PaulRB

Then again, my expectations of players seems vastly different to others that post here.

You are not Robinson Crusoe.

There are plenty of people on that Island of yours...

Watts look like a school boy last night, he spent a lot of time on the bench in the last, don't be supprised if he doesn't play next week not form related, I think his ankle was troubling him in the last.

Funny you say that. One of the blokes I used to play footy with works the games at Subi and was close to the Melbourne players on several occasions on the weekend. He said exactly the same thing, that our team looks like a school boys team in comparison to Freo and most other teams.

We desperately need big and hard players. Not until this happens will we challenge.

Funny you say that. One of the blokes I used to play footy with works the games at Subi and was close to the Melbourne players on several occasions on the weekend. He said exactly the same thing, that our team looks like a school boys team in comparison to Freo and most other teams.

We desperately need big and hard players. Not until this happens will we challenge.

Agree we are only marginally in front of GWS and GCS

The worrying part for me is I think their kids are much better than ours.

Agree we are only marginally in front of GWS and GCS

The worrying part for me is I think their kids are much better than ours.

They are.

People on bigfooty were suggesting that it could be considered a fair trade for Watts for a first round draft pick.

Honestly if we got offered a pick in the top 10 for Watts I would take it in a heartbeat.