Development Over Time

[Bossdog 2,002]

Meanwhile the CEO was presenting "Whiteboard Wednesday" for us all.

The Club should collectively hang its head in shame and apologize to the rank & file member who has financially supported this club in the last 5 years.

Until G. Lyon stormed in the doors last August it is obvious the entire organization had no idea about elite fitness mind or body.

I love the way the Crows have bounced back. Yes they were stale. But Neil Craig had them fit as.

Craig was a great recruitment.

And if they did(apologise) .....Would you be a happier man??????.......It is now and the future we have to worry about and learn from past mistakes......

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

As I posted somewhere else, this is the first time in decades that I believe there is a coherent plan which will develop the team. Previously there may have been a lack of resources but I had no sense that there was a coordinated approach which would combine gameplan, fitness and personnel. Now I can see (metaphorically) the development occurring. Changing the gameplan, fitness and personnel takes time, but I feel much happier with what looks to me to be a plan for the future being implemented now.

[Sir Why You Little 35,321]

And if they did(apologise) .....Would you be a happier man??????.......It is now and the future we have to worry about and learn from past mistakes......

All i am saying Boss is that there were serious mistakes made right down the line until G Lyon walked in the door. That is not to say he fixed all the problems, but at least they were confronted by all.

Our CEO may well have been reporting player development in good faith to the members. But the reality was that it was not happening. Blame must be shared.

[Bossdog 2,002]

All i am saying Boss is that there were serious mistakes made right down the line until G Lyon walked in the door. That is not to say he fixed all the problems, but at least they were confronted by all.

Our CEO may well have been reporting player development in good faith to the members. But the reality was that it was not happening. Blame must be shared.

What the hell is blaming every one going to do????? Mistake have occured.....Learn from them and move on........You cant wallow in the past or you will be bound to repeat the same mistakes Edited May 10, 2012 by Bossdog

[Viney12 196]

As I posted somewhere else, this is the first time in decades that I believe there is a coherent plan which will develop the team. Previously there may have been a lack of resources but I had no sense that there was a coordinated approach which would combine gameplan, fitness and personnel. Now I can see (metaphorically) the development occurring. Changing the gameplan, fitness and personnel takes time, but I feel much happier with what looks to me to be a plan for the future being implemented now.

Good post and I agree with you to a large extent

I think that for once, we got a brutally honest assessment from Neeld, Misson and Craig when they came in

I was shocked about what they said regarding where our fitness was at (I knew it was not great, but their assessment was damning beyond my belief)

[Sir Why You Little 35,321]

What the hell is blaming every one going to do????? Mistake have occured.....Learn from them and move on........You cant wallow in the past or you will be bound to repeat the same mistakes

I do not want to wallow in the past at all. But until the entire club actually does learn, and not just talk about it the club will not move forward.

We the paying member can only hope that this time (last summer) the right structures were put in place, because in 2008 we were informed that all was set, it clearly wasn't by a long shot.

[Sir Why You Little 35,321]

Good post and I agree with you to a large extent

I think that for once, we got a brutally honest assessment from Neeld, Misson and Craig when they came in

I was shocked about what they said regarding where our fitness was at (I knew it was not great, but their assessment was damning beyond my belief)

Spot on.

How the list could be assessed as so far behind the entire comp after 4 years of player development is beyond belief.

The good thing is that Neeld Misson & Craig were so honest and are still on board knowing the enomity of the challenge.

I hope these 3 guys are allowed to change whatever they see fit without obstruction to get the job done.

[Bossdog 2,002]

I do not want to wallow in the past at all. But until the entire club actually does learn, and not just talk about it the club will not move forward.

We the paying member can only hope that this time (last summer) the right structures were put in place, because in 2008 we were informed that all was set, it clearly wasn't by a long shot.

2008 ......4 years ago........It's 4 years in the past....As I said learn and move on....

[Sir Why You Little 35,321]

2008 ......4 years ago........It's 4 years in the past....As I said learn and move on....

Yes. As long as the learning is done. That is my only point. Maybe i am older than you, not sure. I have read assurances from the MFC before. This time i want it to work. Seeing our number one draft pick walk without even saying goodbye was the last kick in the guts i will cop.

[dee-luded 2,958]

I am actually satisfied to see that Morton since starting to play this year has actually improved as he has had more game time, and gained in confidence. Sure he was not great to start with, but it looks like he has the confidence of the coaches, and a role to play.

You could add Cook, and Gysberts to your list above of players that need time to adjust and build toward the appropriate body shape for the role that Neeld and the football department need from these players.

.... I almost put Tapscott in too, but couldnt' keep from smiling (although perhaps in all honesty, all our younger players will be "sculpted" to what is required.)

I don't know if his game has improved much, but So Far, his Intensity is better.

He LOOKS more willing. Thats a small start in the right direction.

And Bennell seems to be, by reports, responding to the Selection Sword.... schools out on these boys... we'll know more by Years End.

[Roost It 1,434]

W have a long list of inexperienced players who may become part of a good team. Next years draft and preseason is the most important for a long long time. More years like the last 5 and we'll have less than 30,000 members and a list of players ready to leave.

[Sir Why You Little 35,321]

W have a long list of inexperienced players who may become part of a good team. Next years draft and preseason is the most important for a long long time. More years like the last 5 and we'll have less than 30,000 members and a list of players ready to leave.

I agree. Those that speak of more tanking and more draft picks are way off the mark. To fill the northern side of the 'G we need wins, and must trade aggressively for that to have any chance. Otherwise people are just not going to turn up. I can feel the vibe in the stands.

[Roost It 1,434]

I'll have to admit I'm yet to attend a game. I couldn't make the season opener nor the Stynes tribute game but after seeing most MCG games over the last 6 years I'd prefer to spend time with the family. I am however quietly optimistic that the current coaching panel can turn us into a strong combative football team. Team being the operative word.

[Johnny Karate 559]

Neeld rightly or wrongly won't have the same latitude as Bailey given to him by Melbourne supporters. He's going to have to deal with dissatisfaction from not only his tenure but lingering bitterness from the Bailey fiasco. We've won 31 out of our last 125 including 1 from our last 13.

It's understandable that the natives are restless.

[rpfc 27,691]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/136145/default.aspx

Bump.

This article gives a better indication of how Misson fits in and the work the players are being asked to do.

[dpositive 1,602]

As I posted somewhere else, this is the first time in decades that I believe there is a coherent plan which will develop the team. Previously there may have been a lack of resources but I had no sense that there was a coordinated approach which would combine gameplan, fitness and personnel. Now I can see (metaphorically) the development occurring. Changing the gameplan, fitness and personnel takes time, but I feel much happier with what looks to me to be a plan for the future being implemented now.

I agree with this although can remember many 5 year plans being presented. Without adequate resources an often conflicting approaches to failure these plans were reviewed every 3 years so there was never any completion.

I think the time frame is shorter than we acknowledge and I like you do still feel confident that there is some coherent coordinated approach with adequate resources.

[Deeoldfart 7,853]

http://www.melbourne...45/default.aspx

Bump.

This article gives a better indication of how Misson fits in and the work the players are being asked to do.

I agree rpfc, and with it, increased confidence that it's all part of a long term plan that will leave us in good shape to ultimately be successful.