All bids are in.

A surprising result, pick 1 not at all popular with most being conservative. Whether this was because no-one actually wanted pick 1, or because they thought everyone else would bid for it I couldn't say. But whichever way you cut it JackLivesHere's single bid on pick 1 wins it unopposed. Is it the poisoned chalice some have suggested?

I'll start drawing the bids out later this morning : in the mean time here is the spread:

1 JLH

2 RPFC, RR, OMR, DT, DT, DT, SNO

3 ROB, ROB, JLH

4 HT, DAP, OMR, 45HG, SNO, DV

5 JA, JAKO, JLH, RPFC, 45HG

6 ETH, 45HG

7 MM, MM, RR

8 MM, ETH, SCA, SNO, DV

9 ETH, SCA

10 JCB, JAKO, SCA

11 HT, RPFC, OMR

12

13

14

15 DL7

16 DV

17

18

Edited February 19, 201214 yr by JACKATTACK

Relegation assumes that the RF league is somehow worse than ours, I don't think that is correct really, it's not like we are better.

And the more I think about it the more I think we should take a leaf out of the R Flower league and name our league after a great of our club. And really when it comes to a game that decides the greatest coach amongst us there is only one name to consider.

Would it be too much HT to rename the league (forum) to 'Ultimate Footy - Norm Smith League'?

So what have we decided on ? Jim Stynes League or Norm Smith League ? Happy to go with either.

Sorry to intrude on the big boys board, but as you're talking relegation I thought I might throw my two bob in.

Not sure how this keeper thing works but there is a natural progression in keepers anyway. The teams that came up could not keep anyone but get PP's. This would allow them first dibs on blokes they think might step up into the elite bracket. Not sure if it's possible but it would allow older under performing elites to be dropped in favor of the up and comers.

I'd be in favor of relegation as it mixes things up and would, over time, help us to get to know more of our fellow posters, and help to ensure the competitions are more even.

Having said that, if I were you guys I'd wait and see how our league goes before opening things up. Last season our league didn't have 1 trade done that I'm aware of as there was only a few of us playing and our starting players were too valuable to trade. 3/4's of the players were tied up in inactive teams.

Half our new league haven't even identified themselves yet and I'm already worried it could be another fizzer. I'll admit I kept an eye on your comp last year and it looked like fun if you can get it working properly. If I were you guys I wouldn't even consider it until you're sure our league is working.

Probably sage advice. Agree on the bolded section, they were my thoughts when I suggested it to try and make things in a way, more inclusive. As well as increase competition for the whole season.

With regards to promtion / relegation - i'm all for it - and whoever wins your little league here will be most welcome in ours as the promoted team for 2013

I like the competitive nature of your post, IWAP.

Norm Smith League it is.

Norm Smith League it is.

No disrespect to Jimmy intended, but Norm Smith league just feels right to me.

All bids are in.

A surprising result, pick 1 not at all popular with most being conservative. Whether this was because no-one actually wanted pick 1, or because they thought everyone else would bid for it I couldn't say. But whichever way you cut it JackLivesHere's single bid on pick 1 wins it unopposed. Is it the poisoned chalice some have suggested?

I'll start drawing the bids out later this morning : in the mean time here is the spread:

1 JLH

2 RPFC, RR, OMR, DT, DT, DT, SNO

3 ROB, ROB, JLH

4 HT, DAP, OMR, 45HG, SNO, DV

5 JA, JAKO, JLH, RPFC, 45HG

6 ETH, 45HG

7 MM, MM, RR

8 MM, ETH, SCA, SNO, DV

9 ETH, SCA

10 JCB, JAKO, SCA

11 HT, RPFC, OMR

12

13

14

15 DL7

16 DV

17

18

Very interesting result! Knew I should have gone for 13! Just knew I didn't want 18 so any upgrade I was happy with. When you thinkin of drawing oh great one?

Sorry I have looked over this thread but I just couldn't work it out. Is this going to be like an AFL draft where it is 1-18, then the repeat order? Or will it be like last year, 1-18 then the order is reversed.

JCB has stated this lottery thing is very confusing.He reckons he trusts JA- just to place in order by putting the 18 names in a hat, mug , whatever and just draw it. It seems to hard and tiresome However, he has sent his pick to JA vIa me to his PM.

Tell him don't sweat, enjoy his trip, forget about UF, and have faith in JA.

As stated the draft system is the same as last year. (reversing) So in reality any draft pick you end up with is just as fair as any other.

So here goes the lottery:

PICK 1: Won unopposed by JackLives Here (fortune favours the brave)

PICK 2: Drawn name: Dream Team A successful brute force attack on pick 2.

PICK 3: Drawn name: JLH (invalid) You can't have Pick 1 and 3 JLH!

PICK 3: Drawn name: Robbo24 The only names remaining were both for Robbo.

PICK 4: Drawn name: OMR OMR snags it, 1 of the 6 bids placed.

PICK 5: Drawn name: RPFC Bastard! I think I went too hard now, shoulda gone pick 6

PICK 6: Drawn name: Eth 45HG just plain unlucky to have 3 picks pass him by. Well done Eth.

PICK 7: Drawn name: MM Went hard with 2 of his 3 picks on pick 7 and gets rewarded.

PICK 8: Drawn name: Deevoted 1 of 3 remaining valid names, SnomeD and Scarlett miss out.

PICK 9: Drawn name: Scarlett Eth was already out so it was the only option available anyway

PICK10: Drawn name: JCB Snags his single bid wit a calculated bid.

PICK11: Drawn name: HT Only valid name left was HT

PICK12: No bids: Snomed This bid defaults to SnomeD being the lowest ranked coach not yet assigned a pick.

PICK13: No Bids: 45HG another default pick

PICK14: No bids: JAKO13 Jako defaults to 14 despite a relatively conservative bid on 5 and 10.

PICK15: Drawn name: DL7 Last year's winner upgrades his potential last pick to 15, cleverly forcing Dappa into last pick.

PICK16: No bids: Range Rover Went hard for pick 2 and 7, couldn't snag his preferred so defaults to 16.

PICK17: No bids: Jackattack Not as I had planned it.

PICK18: No Bids: Dappa Unlucky bro, expect him to start spouting crap like: 'This is the pick I actually wanted' OR 'now I have 2 picks in the top 19!'

Edited February 20, 201214 yr by JACKATTACK

Well done JA.

Observations:

45, RR - unlucky.

Robbo24 and M_M both went hard for their picks 3 and 7 respectively by loading up and getting them.

The two new additions get picks 1 and 2 ! Have we heard (read) from them yet ? Who are they ?

Content with pick 11.

Ouch.

Well done JA.

Observations:

45, RR - unlucky.

Robbo24 and M_M both went hard for their picks 3 and 7 respectively by loading up and getting them.

The two new additions get picks 1 and 2 ! Have we heard (read) from them yet ? Who are they ?

Content with pick 11.

Long time demonland readers, quiet types. A short Bio of both has been posted and I have encouraged both to get involved as much as possible.

Edited February 20, 201214 yr by JACKATTACK

Pick 5 is pretty good.

It's all setup now for me to overthink and not pick someone who will dominate.

Amen.

Come at me, Ablett or Swan or Pendlebury or Franklin or jeeez Gonna have a fair few to choose from!!

Come at me, Ablett or Swan or Pendlebury or Franklin or jeeez Gonna have a fair few to choose from!!

That's the only good thing about picking last. I get 2 in a row, so there's less stress... Don't have to choose between two superstars. The only exception being if you have pick 1... Just take Sandi, and you'll always be pleased.

Come at me, Ablett or Swan or Pendlebury or Franklin or jeeez Gonna have a fair few to choose from!!

Throw in Marc Murphy , Joel Selwood , Sandilands , Mumford , Stevie J , NDS

Decisions , Decisions , Decisions - Very happy to have snagged selection 4

Pick 14 YAY!!!just what I always wanted.....FFFFFFFFFAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKKKK. I went backwards from my finishing position last year. At least pick 23 in round 2 is better than 36 - have to pull something out my rectal cavity

As stated the draft system is the same as last year. (reversing) So in reality any draft pick you end up with is just as fair as any other.

So here goes the lottery:

PICK 1: Won unopposed by JackLives Here (fortune favours the brave)

PICK 2: Drawn name: Dream Team A successful brute force attack on pick 2.

PICK 3: Drawn name: JLH (invalid) You can't have Pick 1 and 3 JLH!

PICK 3: Drawn name: Robbo24 The only names remaining were both for Robbo.

PICK 4: Drawn name: OMR OMR snags it, 1 of the 6 bids placed.

PICK 5: Drawn name: RPFC Bastard! I think I went too hard now, shoulda gone pick 6

PICK 6: Drawn name: Eth 45HG just plain unlucky to have 3 picks pass him by. Well done Eth.

PICK 7: Drawn name: MM Went hard with 2 of his 3 picks on pick 7 and gets rewarded.

PICK 8: Drawn name: Deevoted 1 of 3 remaining valid names, SnomeD and Scarlett miss out.

PICK 9: Drawn name: Scarlett Eth was already out so it was the only option available anyway

PICK10: Drawn name: JCB Snags his single bid wit a calculated bid.

PICK11: Drawn name: HT Only valid name left was HT

PICK12: No bids: Snomed This bid defaults to SnomeD being the lowest ranked coach not yet assigned a pick.

PICK13: No Bids: 45HG another default pick

PICK14: No bids: JAKO13 Jako defaults to 14 despite a relatively conservative bid on 5 and 10.

PICK15: Drawn name: DL7 Last year's winner upgrades his potential last pick to 15, cleverly forcing Dappa into last pick.

PICK16: No bids: Range Rover Went hard for pick 2 and 7, couldn't snag his preferred so defaults to 16.

PICK17: No bids: Jackattack Not as I had planned it.

PICK18: No Bids: Dappa Unlucky bro, expect him to start spouting crap like: 'This is the pick I actually wanted' OR 'now I have 2 picks in the top 19!'

Very happy with picks 16 and 21 ... and the Range does his best work between picks 30 and 100!

Top picks could be a poisoned chalice the way we have the draft. In saying that gutted I didn't put in for pick 1.

Top 3 has to be Pendles, Selwood & Murphy though knowing Jack LH will probably time out before he decides.

Don't empty that Waste paper Bin to soon RR

You know I have the wood on you - Talk tough as much as you like in Feb

When the real stuff starts you know the doubts will resurface.

Look forward to some early season trading with you Old Foe!

Round 20 grudge match OMR. Lock it in!

I've got everyone's favourite competitor OMR first up. I know you like starting from behind Rivers so I'll pull a Travis Cloke on you and comfortably start you in the bottom 9 this year

Perfect pick 7, the pick I am able to over think and eventually pick someone who will be injured early knowing my luck! Happy with the new less weighting on frees, that was a big factor in my poor performance last year with Franklin often giving away 4-5

I've got everyone's favourite competitor OMR first up. I know you like starting from behind Rivers so I'll pull a Travis Cloke on you and comfortably start you in the bottom 9 this year

Honoured to be acknowledged by the reigning UF Premier in 2011

Looking forward to round one also DL7

As the bottom line of your signature states - Bring On 2012

Back in town and want to sincerely thank HT,JA & Savoydee whilst I have been suspended.I have been able to get on UF site and looks to be a great year for all of us again.OMR ,I wish you all the best especially whilst your away.Have a great trip.

HT- thanks for passing on your advise re my messages.Sorted out now-thankyou

Edited February 24, 201214 yr by jayceebee31

Back in town and want to sincerely thank HT,JA & Savoydee whilst I have been suspended.I have been able to get on UF site and looks to be a great year for all of us again.OMR ,I wish you all the best especially whilst your away.Have a great trip.

HT- thanks for passing on your advise re my messages.Sorted out now-thankyou

Welcome Back JCB - Or should we call you DEVILS IN THE DETAIL? Whats going on there?

Thanks for your best wishes for my trip to The States

Only 6 sleeps to go until draft day - Getting very pumped for a season shaping Sunday evening!

Have to say Ablett comes into top 2 calculations now after his effort in the wet.

Not sure I have the aggots to pass on Murphy / Pendles but will make me think.