One of his last tweets was he was certain we'd reach 40000 members. Well we going to be about 4000 short of that so our revenue budget will be short by about $450,000. Wonder if he is still projecting a profit?

Don't want to move the discussion too much off topic, but I think the most damage to our membership growth this year was done at the WC game. I certainly felt a huge defaltion at the effort of the team and the coaching panel during and after that game. Would be interesting to see how the rate of memberships was tracking before and after that debacle. Performance in the early games is really critical to getting supporters on the wagon.

I do .

Tho' I do dip me lid to Smorgan as he kept the Dogs alive .

This is the AFL , success means Flags .

Kept 'em alive, their thriving.. you've got to look at it from a perspective of what they've been for the last 50 Years to see how well they've done.

They've built a steady and constant platform from which they can launch their next assault thats forming as we speak, with the new blood coming in to that side.

The saints area more concern with their negative style. But they to have some young coming through.

Building a side means flag potential, which I guess to you means success. You seem to think that building a sound list and team can be bought at the nearest mobile phone shop. Underestimating the work that is involved in doing this.

Been on Demonology for years, and read on here everyday. However only post when I truly am concerned about something. And I truly believe Schwab has been good for MFC but he's gone missing of late when the heat is on.

One of his last tweets was he was certain we'd reach 40000 members. Well we going to be about 4000 short of that so our revenue budget will be short by about $450,000. Wonder if he is still projecting a profit? Also, I believe he should be updating members again re Scully.

em, I thought your post was about trying to have a crack at him.

I hope there's not a political movement creeping around the skirting boards?

Not gagged by the board, but it was reported that there has been a decisive shift to promoting Bailey and the team on-field, rather than the club off-field.

I thought this was common knowledge.

CS would be shying away from excessive use of twitter to avoid the perception that he was trying to undermine Bailey's wish to have the team be the focus.

Fair enough, when you know what Caroline Wilson is like...

As far as I know, the shift was before the season started. Schwab didn't stop using twitter at the start of the year.

Kept 'em alive, their thriving.. you've got to look at it from a perspective of what they've been for the last 50 Years to see how well they've done.

Mate , they've done nothing for 50 years and Smorgan has saved 'em .

Your Idea and mine about thriving are obviously different.

You seem to think that building a sound list and team can be bought at the nearest mobile phone shop. Underestimating the work that is involved in doing this.

Where is it that I say this ?

They've built a steady and constant platform from which they can launch their next assault thats forming as we speak, with the new blood coming in to that side.

Pfft ... Yeah right .

The saints area more concern with their negative style. But they to have some young coming through.

Double Pfft .

Lyon is the worst thing that happened to that club .

Thomas had them playing exciting footy the was the talk of the football world .

If he hadn't have had a personal fallout with Buttress he'd still be there with possibly a flag or 2.

Their youth is nothing compared to the core of that club which the club was built around .

Once Reiwoldt , Hayes , Dal Santo , Montagna & co are gone they'll have Nothing .

Their goose is cooked .

Ooop ... Game time , gotta go .

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cam is a star, we have to trust him and his judgement not to be in the media when he chooses

Thomas had them playing exciting footy the was the talk of the football world .

If he hadn't have had a personal fallout with Buttress he'd still be there with possibly a flag or 2.

Thats the worst piece of revisionist history I have read for some time on here. Could not be more wrong. At the end of 2006, Thomas was finished ahd the wheels were off the Saints.

FFS, Lyon went within a kick of a flag and he is the worst thing to happen to the Saints. At least Malcolm Blight and Tim Watson can breathe easy now.

Thats the worst piece of revisionist history I have read for some time on here. Could not be more wrong. At the end of 2006, Thomas was finished ahd the wheels were off the Saints.

FFS, Lyon went within a kick of a flag and he is the worst thing to happen to the Saints. At least Malcolm Blight and Tim Watson can breathe easy now.

Finished at the end of 2006 because he had a fallout with Buttress .

The only reason we beat them in the Elimination final was cause they lost Gehrig , Harvey and both Clarkes during the game .

Yeah Lyon took them to within a point of the flag with a mature list .

Also got smashed in game 2 because he refused to learn any lessons from the previous week .

Do you think they should get rid of him at the end of the year ?

Be lucky to even make the finals and who cares , no-one wants to watch them play his negative game plan anyhoo .

Mate , they've done nothing for 50 years and Smorgan has saved 'em .

Your Idea and mine about thriving are obviously different.

Where is it that I say this ?

Pfft ... Yeah right .

Double Pfft .

Lyon is the worst thing that happened to that club .

Thomas had them playing exciting footy the was the talk of the football world .

If he hadn't have had a personal fallout with Buttress he'd still be there with possibly a flag or 2.

Their youth is nothing compared to the core of that club which the club was built around .

Once Reiwoldt , Hayes , Dal Santo , Montagna & co are gone they'll have Nothing .

Their goose is cooked .

Ooop ... Game time , gotta go .

It sounds to me like you haven't been around much and witnessed much. The Doggies as a club have been perennial easybeats since the 50's. The success and consolidation from that point, to where they are now, (as far as building cultural 'Self Belief' is massive) is a solid platform to build the next Push forward. They have quite a good bit of quality coming through to add & strengthen their current position. The Interim changeover period of Old to Inexperienced, is turbulent time.

The saints are a side thats Too one dimesional. Their players have been brought in and Indoctrinated into the Negative game so much that when they try to attack,,, they don't remember how to do it Collectively as a team... But Ross Lyon has done a great Job getting an So So list, and Club to the last 2 Grand Finals. They have to do a rejig of the side, one way or another, because there lost when trying to play attacking footy.

This is why Bailey must let this side learn to attack first, to learn to break through the floods and presses. We have to learn that, Prior to learning the defensive Press.... The Saints can 'Press',,, But haven't learnt to 'Attack', and don't know how to..

We have to learn How to Score in todays defensive football,,, before we start to shutdown sides. If we don't we won't learn it.

As far as I know, the shift was before the season started. Schwab didn't stop using twitter at the start of the year.

I can't remember exactly, but I was under the impression it happened around the time of the most recent Whiteboard Wednesday.

In any case, I'm pretty sure it was near the same time as the conclusion of the review that was undertaken.

It sounds to me like you haven't been around much and witnessed much.

Didn't see them win their last flag , never saw us win ours and didn't see the Saints win theirs .

Been around long enough and witnessed enough to know we're all basket cases .

The Dog's won't be winning a flag anytime soon with or without Smorgan , neither will the Aints with Lyon.

Will we .... With the GC's bag of up an coming youngsters I'm having my doubts .

The Saints can 'Press',,, But haven't learnt to 'Attack', and don't know how to..

The Aints once new all about attack , they've since had that instinct coached out of them .

I'm not the 1 who's dee-luded , same with your 1 game wonder mate up there Rhino Richards .

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Some would say this.. but some could also provide the notes that he and CC also failed at Fremantle.

I don't think so. Certainly not off the field.

This rings true:

CC may have not done the best job as coach but CS certainly did a great job for Freo his record speaks for itself. No matter how the on field form was like CS took a financial basket case of a club and made it profitable in a short period of time.

Been on Demonology for years, and read on here everyday. However only post when I truly am concerned about something. And I truly believe Schwab has been good for MFC but he's gone missing of late when the heat is on.

One of his last tweets was he was certain we'd reach 40000 members. Well we going to be about 4000 short of that so our revenue budget will be short by about $450,000. Wonder if he is still projecting a profit? Also, I believe he should be updating members again re Scully.

About 3,500 short of the "target", but 1,500 or thereabouts over the "budget".

Their target and what they actually budgeted for could be to different things.

Bingo.

FFS, Lyon went within a kick of a flag and he is the worst thing to happen to the Saints.

Very close to winning two flags.

I can't remember exactly, but I was under the impression it happened around the time of the most recent Whiteboard Wednesday.

In any case, I'm pretty sure it was near the same time as the conclusion of the review that was undertaken.

Here's an article written before the season started:

DEAN Bailey will be more prominent as the face of Melbourne this year.

The coach and his players are to become the "shopfront" of the Demons after Bailey told the board it was time for football to be the major focus.

In recent years, strong personalities such as president Jim Stynes, football boss Chris Connolly and chief executive Cameron Schwab have been on centre stage as the club rebuilt.

"Now, quite clearly, there is an understanding that from this point onwards the team is the shopfront," Schwab said yesterday.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-face-their-future/story-e6frf9jf-1226019327435

Didn't see them win their last flag , never saw us win ours and didn't see the Saints win theirs .

Been around long enough and witnessed enough to know we're all basket cases .

The Dog's won't be winning a flag anytime soon with or without Smorgan , neither will the Aints with Lyon.

Will we .... With the GC's bag of up an coming youngsters I'm having my doubts .

The Aints once new all about attack , they've since had that instinct coached out of them .

I'm not the 1 who's dee-luded , same with your 1 game wonder mate up there Rhino Richards .

So you have no experience, & No answers. Just Cynical Opinions.

Here's an article written before the season started:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-face-their-future/story-e6frf9jf-1226019327435

Well there ya go.

Thanks for going to the effort to... uh... trying to figure out how to make this not sound sarcastic... show me where I was going wrong?

Anyway, I am appreciative.

Cam's a gun.

Couldn't give a fark how often he's on twitter.

Well there ya go.

Thanks for going to the effort to... uh... trying to figure out how to make this not sound sarcastic... show me where I was going wrong?

Anyway, I am appreciative.

Top hit on google for the search 'bailey focus on football on-field', so not much effort at all

Even if he is using it as a way of corresponding with the very large number of Demon fans on there?

You're probably right. I guess it says more about an old dinosaur like me. I'm more twit than twitter!