We play like the coach ... dull and dispassionate.

Time for the 'development coach' or whatever the hell that means to be shown the door and get someone in there who can actually fire up the players and think strategically.

Keeping him on for the sake of "stability" is going to end up doing more harm than good.

What was Lyon saying?

And Lyon can comment because he coached the Australian Gaelic Football side???

I'm sorry, but a lack of players didn't cost us the game tonight.

It was an unstructured press that in no way put us in a position to win the game.

He had absolutely no confidence in this team's ability to play a quick, offensive game tonight, and it showed. It was a very disappointing coaching effort imo. He never coached to win. He coached to keep the score as low as possible, and that does not work anymore. It is not 2005. The game has changed.

Also, this gameplan was also employed against Swans, Lions, Hawks, Saints, North, where we struggle to kick out, and once we do get it out we have no one pressing forward.

Petterd was told to press forward at one point and he looked especially frustrated. Neither he nor Jurrah were given a chance to do what they're best at, and that's kick goals.

It was a very poor coaching display imo. These young kids need to be given the freedom to play a quick, flowing, offensive and exciting brand of football. The team was very restricted tonight because Bailey had no faith in the squad.

Carlton acknowledged that and took advantage. Although they played in 2nd gear. Boy are they going to cop it come Finals time.

I'm not angry though. I just hope Bailey acknowledges the mistake he has made with the squad he has had for the past few weeks. I think we'd have benefited considerably more had we played a more offensive style of game.

The likes of Scully, Trengove etc. are not going to help us kick out or get it out of the backline. That has been an issue even when those players are in the squad.

We are seeing how vulnerable his gameplan is.

Also, the one week the team "goes back to basics", we win by 100 points.

Firstly, your language is offensive.

Secondly, 8 of our 22 out is absolutely a fact. It may b an excuse, but it is definitely a fact. No tea, performs as well with 8 key blokes out, let alone a young team like ours against a top 4 side.

Bingo.

Of course we were going to lose tonight.

Not Bailey's fault we have injuries and not Bailey's fault Carlton are a top 4 side.

Why did we change our game plan for tonight? What was our game plan anyway? Play a loose man back and our forwards up? This was coaching ten years ago. He doesn't understand the modern game i feel.

Did you even read the comment you replied to???? If we had have taken the game on through the corridor with the team we have at the moment against Carlton we would have been absolutely torn apart 100+ Tonights result was not the result of Bailys inability to coach. Our team had an average of 59 games to carltons 90, they are way ahead of us in development and we have half our side out.

For all intents and purposes, footballers need to be coached.

It starts with the basics:

Make sure you're wearing long stops - it's slippery

Take the ball on your chest as it's slippery

Don't handball the ball at a team mate who's 3 metres away, surrounded by 3 opponents at 400 miles an hour

If you can't pick up the ball, kick it off the ground - it's slippery

Zone and man up, no cheap disposals.

FFS, watch the ball onto your foot

Keep the ball away from Stef Martin. If this guy wants to improve, he needs to be dropped as NOT ONCE did he try to tap it to Sylvia or Moloney. No more cheap games.

Then again, it's all about 2013

It was a very poor coaching display imo. These young kids need to be given the freedom to play a quick, flowing, offensive and exciting brand of football. The team was very restricted tonight because Bailey had no faith in the squad.

Essendon tried that, unsuccessfully, then sacked the coach.

How do you expect to win a game of footy when you start with a loose man in defence??????????

Why the negitive game plan???

I'm sorry, but a lack of players didn't cost us the game tonight.

It was an unstructured press that in no way put us in a position to win the game.

He had absolutely no confidence in this team's ability to play a quick, offensive game tonight, and it showed. It was a very disappointing coaching effort imo. He never coached to win. He coached to keep the score as low as possible, and that does not work anymore. It is not 2005. The game has changed.

Also, this gameplan was also employed against Swans, Lions, Hawks, Saints, North, where we struggle to kick out, and once we do get it out we have no one pressing forward.

Petterd was told to press forward at one point and he looked especially frustrated. Neither he nor Jurrah were given a chance to do what they're best at, and that's kick goals.

It was a very poor coaching display imo. These young kids need to be given the freedom to play a quick, flowing, offensive and exciting brand of football. The team was very restricted tonight because Bailey had no faith in the squad.

Carlton acknowledged that and took advantage. Although they played in 2nd gear. Boy are they going to cop it come Finals time.

I'm not angry though. I just hope Bailey acknowledges the mistake he has made with the squad he has had for the past few weeks. I think we'd have benefited considerably more had we played a more offensive style of game.

The likes of Scully, Trengove etc. are not going to help us kick out or get it out of the backline. That has been an issue even when those players are in the squad.

We are seeing how vulnerable his gameplan is.

Also, the one week the team "goes back to basics", we win by 100 points.

We don't have a "press", let alone an unstructured one. Everyone knows we don't have one, and Harley even went as far as to say so during the commentary.

I'm sorry, but a lack of players didn't cost us the game tonight.

It was an unstructured press that in no way put us in a position to win the game.

He had absolutely no confidence in this team's ability to play a quick, offensive game tonight, and it showed. It was a very disappointing coaching effort imo. He never coached to win. He coached to keep the score as low as possible, and that does not work anymore. It is not 2005. The game has changed.

Also, this gameplan was also employed against Swans, Lions, Hawks, Saints, North, where we struggle to kick out, and once we do get it out we have no one pressing forward.

Petterd was told to press forward at one point and he looked especially frustrated. Neither he nor Jurrah were given a chance to do what they're best at, and that's kick goals.

It was a very poor coaching display imo. These young kids need to be given the freedom to play a quick, flowing, offensive and exciting brand of football. The team was very restricted tonight because Bailey had no faith in the squad.

Carlton acknowledged that and took advantage. Although they played in 2nd gear. Boy are they going to cop it come Finals time.

It's actually sad how deluded you are.

If we had played an open game, we would have been eaten alive. Their strength is small forwards and goal kicking midfielders, and we were missing Davey, Bartram, Grimes, Tapscott and Garland. That means we lost our creative kicks off the half back line, and our shut down players.

The fact of the matter is, at half time we were 16 points down, and 2 of their goals came from shocking turnovers by depth players that are only playing because of injuries.

I'm not saying Bailey did everything right, because IMO he didn't (Watts is not a backman), but if you think playing Petterd the Pretender and Jurrah the Weak in position would have helped, you need to have another look.

Firstly, your language is offensive.

Secondly, 8 of our 22 out is absolutely a fact. It may b an excuse, but it is definitely a fact. No tea, performs as well with 8 key blokes out, let alone a young team like ours against a top 4 side.

Did you even read it??? Exactly my point, he said 8 out of our best 22 was no excuse, IT IS!!!!! Offensive?? are you a [censored]?

STOP PRESS:No players, no press.

I'm sorry, but a lack of players didn't cost us the game tonight.

It was an unstructured press that in no way put us in a position to win the game.

He had absolutely no confidence in this team's ability to play a quick, offensive game tonight, and it showed. It was a very disappointing coaching effort imo. He never coached to win. He coached to keep the score as low as possible, and that does not work anymore. It is not 2005. The game has changed.

Also, this gameplan was also employed against Swans, Lions, Hawks, Saints, North, where we struggle to kick out, and once we do get it out we have no one pressing forward.

Petterd was told to press forward at one point and he looked especially frustrated. Neither he nor Jurrah were given a chance to do what they're best at, and that's kick goals.

It was a very poor coaching display imo. These young kids need to be given the freedom to play a quick, flowing, offensive and exciting brand of football. The team was very restricted tonight because Bailey had no faith in the squad.

Carlton acknowledged that and took advantage. Although they played in 2nd gear. Boy are they going to cop it come Finals time.

I'm not angry though. I just hope Bailey acknowledges the mistake he has made with the squad he has had for the past few weeks. I think we'd have benefited considerably more had we played a more offensive style of game.

The likes of Scully, Trengove etc. are not going to help us kick out or get it out of the backline. That has been an issue even when those players are in the squad.

We are seeing how vulnerable his gameplan is.

Also, the one week the team "goes back to basics", we win by 100 points.

Did you even read it??? Exactly my point, he said 8 out of our best 22 was no excuse, IT IS!!!!! Offensive?? are you a [censored]?

You might like to learn English. It's just that I'm guessing you have English characters on your keyboard, so it might be easier to learn the language.

Your post said that 7 - 8 players out is an excuse. You meant to say it's a reason, nit an excuse.

No need to call people [censored].

Did you even read it??? Exactly my point, he said 8 out of our best 22 was no excuse, IT IS!!!!! Offensive?? are you a [censored]?

I also find your use of the word '[censored]' offensive. Quit being a moron.

Isn't it obvious? He's made some poor decisions recruiting and delisting and simply can't get the squad of current players up.

Good to see someone gets it. Bailey did not try to win he tried to minimized the loss. It was as soft as some of the efforts of our so called captain tonight.

Good to see someone gets it. Bailey did not try to win he tried to minimized the loss. It was as soft as some of the efforts of our so called captain tonight.

I wont bag the effort of the players tonight, but I can't disagree with this statement.

Sorry to disagree numb nuts but didnt we have a near strength side against WC and the Hawks and we were leading against North? What happened in those games?? If you think DB is the right man for the job you need your head read unless you are happy at being an under achiever (consistently)

We had a fullish strength side of KIDS against WC, and got touched up by an opponent who beat a fullish strength dogs outfit by 123 last week. We were shocking, but let's put it in perspective.

The fact we were ahead of North doesn't mean we can sustain it for 4 quarters. Saints were beating Hawks by 5 goals at quarter time 2 weeks ago. For that matter, we are out-performing North, so Brad Scott should go?

You might like to learn English. It's just that I'm guessing you have English characters on your keyboard, so it might be easier to learn the language.

Your post said that 7 - 8 players out is an excuse. You meant to say it's a reason, nit an excuse.

No need to call people [censored].

Nit an excuse??? My English is bad?

If you read what I REPLIED TO he said excuses again! I was saying it is fact.

i don't need to answer to anyone or elaborate on my statement at this point.

dean bailey ain't gonna do it fo the mfc, period.move on

'CAUSE I'M RIGHT

Nit an excuse??? My English is bad?

If you read what I REPLIED TO he said excuses again! I was saying it is fact.

You got me on nit, I'll give you that!

i don't need to answer to anyone or elaborate on my statement at this point.

dean bailey ain't gonna do it fo the mfc, period.move on

'CAUSE I'M RIGHT

But you're wrong

i'll put a carton on it

You got me on nit, I'll give you that!

It's just a combination of too much passion and too much beer and I apologize for the offensive language. I'm just sooooo frustrated! And for people to call for Bailys head after this, when we had half our side out gets to me! Look at Worsfold last year, he had to go didn't he, now he is GOD!