I honestly don't agree with you Thomo. That said, we'll wait til tonight. Tribunal convenes at 5pm I believe, not sure if Jack is up first.

Trengove puts nearly an identical tackle on Brodie Smith ...all but seconds later.. Because Smith didnt duck his head so much theres a differing result.. Somehow hes at fault the first time and not the second ?? Intention ...exactly the same on both acccounts.

This is all cow manure...fair dinkum !!

It will be interesting to see if that is the argument that Melbourne go with, that Dangerfield caused or contributed to the way in which he hit the ground, so Trengove was not negligent.

It will be interesting to see if that is the argument that Melbourne go with, that Dangerfield caused or contributed to the way in which he hit the ground, so Trengove was not negligent.

Watching the replay, I can see a three-part thing with it.

1) Trengove couldn't have known that the ball was released by Dangerfield. His head was in Dangerfield's back, and while he could have *possibly* glimpsed the pill as he went around, I doubt that he did.

2) Part of the issue is that Dangerfield has gone to kick the ball as Trengove has tackled him, so as Trenners has dragged him around, he has done so with Dangerfield on one foot. This is what has generated the force.

3) He's not actually holding his arm in along the lines of the Byron tackle. Rather, Trenners has actually grabbed Dangerfield's right arm with his right hand.

I reckon the negligent part is gone for sure. The rest I'm not sure of, hard because Dangerfield was concussed.

I reckon the negligent part is gone for sure. The rest I'm not sure of, hard because Dangerfield was concussed.

It isn't required, if it isn't negligent, it's accidental, therefore no case to answer.

Good luck Jack - on in 1 minute's time.

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I can't believe I am actually following a live text-based coverage of the tribunal

no I'm not obsessed with football at all

I can't believe I am actually following a live text-based coverage of the tribunal

no I'm not obsessed with football at all

Yeah, I'm the one that asked the question, deciding whether to start dinner now or to wait...

Any info to report? I cant view it...

they have been going at least 50 minutes for the first case... Trenners is next

this truly is our Kennedy Assassination moment! (and seriously, 'line in the sand' for the future of the game!)

there's probably all of us on that text feed right now!

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That's a really cool system they have set up. Now we can see for ourselves how it all works. Thanks for the link.

Still nothing of interest?

Still nothing of interest?

Hasn't started yet, at the end of the Richards case.

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What's on offer inside the tribunal in terms of food & refreshments?

lol

i know - insightful stuff - top work moderators!

If I remember correctly, Dangerfield was hit heavily in a marking contest prior to the Trengove tackle. Isn't it possible he was already suffering some form of concussion from that, yet came back on the ground?

Good point. And if it is the case that he was hit earlier how can the medical report that this charge is based on separate the two? Can it correctly attribute which impact caused what symptoms?

Ted Richards just got off.

And in a room full of people too!

Richards got off.... Trenners up next.

It's like watching grass grow, this live tribunal crap....

Something Dangermouse saw quite closely on Sunday while he was crying (grass growing)

I will go ape droppings if he cops the full three matches! Or two... Or one for that matter....

i think he'll get a concession, but doubt he'll get completley off the hook?

I could live with 1 week.

Tapscott should represent Trenners tonight.

I just don't want him to get 3, want to watch him unleash on Carlton

If I remember correctly, Dangerfield was hit heavily in a marking contest prior to the Trengove tackle. Isn't it possible he was already suffering some form of concussion from that, yet came back on the ground?

just thinking lateraly - Dangerfield has a history of concussions, to the point he might be considered more prone to it than others...

Give the ass-backwards manner in which this report came to being - If this tackle had happened on, say, Moles (which it DID!), and there is NO concussion, there would never have been a report!

How can any system work this way?

How can any system work this way?

Clearly it doesn't.