Those first two wins were fairly nothing victories, they were against average opposition and we didn't look particularly convincing. Adelaide was different, we were all over them and we played with passion. We deserve to be in the 8 now.

I think that's a fair enough comment. After the first two wins I don't think anyone would have looked at us and said 'they're a finals contender', and certainly not if they'd seen the second half against Hawthorn or the West Coast game.

But we showed yesterday that we can play at a level that will be good enough to make finals. The key is to maintain that level, or close enough to it, for the rest of the year, and not to regress into the form we showed for much of the first 5 matches.

We've beaten Adelaide (home), Brisbane (home) and Gold Coast (away). The latter are quite terrible, so this just shows we're not a wooden spooner this year. Adelaide is a better scalp, but they're stuggling and it was at the 'G (however, we did smash Adelaide).

We've drawn with Sydney (here). I think that's a decent result, but perhaps doesn't mean we definitely 'deserve' a top eight berth at the moment.

We've lost to Hawthorn and WCE (away). I expected a loss to Hawthorn. WCE away is a maybe at best, so I'm not sure you can say that this means we don't deserve a top eight berth (however, we did get smashed by WCE).

Do we deserve top eight based on that? We're around the mark, anyway.

The next month or so is interesting - a shame the next two games are at Etihad.

Were they good coaches against Adelaide ?

Obviously thy were, the standard has been set. The Follow up games will tell a lot.

The next month or so is interesting - a shame the next two games are at Etihad.

No it is actually great the next 2 games are at Etihad...Give the team incentive to not to get ahead of themselves.

We must win AWAY from the 'G.

No it is actually great the next 2 games are at Etihad...Give the team incentive to not to get ahead of themselves.

We must win AWAY from the 'G.

1) I disagree the team would 'get ahead of themselves' if they were planning for North and St Kilda at the 'G. We might have to agree to disagree here.

2) I like winning, and I think we would be a better chance if we were playing at home.

50% success rate for the remainder of the season will give us 11.5 wins which should be the minimum to earn 8th spot. Not unrealistic despite all the powerhouses out there and our soft draw helps.

No but I will take it.

Looks better than our normal position over the last few years.

We have beaten the sides in 12 13 and 17th positions.

I will take a 90+point win any day however lets not get too carried away.

If we are still there after the QB game I will start shooting my mouth off.

Perfect reason why it should be a top 6

Perfect reason why it should be a top 6

2 reasons why it will never again be a top 6

- That would mean another 3-4 sides that would would have little to no chance of playing finals by the half way mark

less interest lower ratings etc.

- Less finals games for tv, lower ratings Less money for AFL.

More likely to be a top 9 come 2012

50% success rate for the remainder of the season will give us 11.5 wins which should be the minimum to earn 8th spot. Not unrealistic despite all the powerhouses out there and our soft draw helps.

Well now you can write St.Kilda out of the equation.