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With Cam Bruce gone and the money will save, should we go after players to help our forward line like Jack Anthony and Jay Neagle?

They are not the best players around but in our age wanted.

With both able to help the forward line and make it look more dangerous.

Jack is a dead eye dick in front of goal and Neagle a good tall mark all this would help out LJ and the small forwards we have. demon_blink.gif

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Ive got to disagree, imo there two average players at best having the two of them would just make things even worse.

I have the belief that an up and running fully fit forward line with players we already have can get the job done and be more than capable of kicking winning scores, with like of Jurrah, Green, Petterd, Dunn, Bate just to name a few talls.

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You might like to cast yourself across to the Draft forum where much discussion on just this is already underway !! :wink:

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Better to rely on players that can play.

We have enough options available in our forward line, Jurrah, Watts, Green, Petterd, Bate, Sylvia, Aussie, Bennell, Tapscott etc.

If we are winning our fair share of ball through the middle and getting it into the forward half efficiently, there is enough talent up front to do plenty of damage.

A Jamar going forward is another option, at times. Fitzpatrick looks a good type, might be a year or two away from AFL yet, but is that worth punting on a Neagle? I don't think so.

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Better to rely on players that can play.

We have enough options available in our forward line, Jurrah, Watts, Green, Petterd, Bate, Sylvia, Aussie, Bennell, Tapscott etc.

If we are winning our fair share of ball through the middle and getting it into the forward half efficiently, there is enough talent up front to do plenty of damage.

A Jamar going forward is another option, at times. Fitzpatrick looks a good type, might be a year or two away from AFL yet, but is that worth punting on a Neagle? I don't think so.

did forget abut Fitzpatrick and the list you just named does look good cant wait to see tapscott play

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did forget abut Fitzpatrick and the list you just named does look good cant wait to see tapscott play

I hope you kids realise that even if Fitzpatrick is a good player - he is about 4 years away at least.

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with Bruce gone and the money will save should we go after players to help our forward line like.

Jack Anthony and Jay Neagle they are not the best players around but in our age wanted.

with both able to help the forward line and make it look more dangerous.

Jack is a dead eye dick in front of goal and Neagle a good tall mark all this would help out LJ and the small forwards we have. :blink:

Wow.

So many comments to make.

- what does Bruce have to do with our forward line?

- what does Bruce have to do with bulking up any part of the field?

- Neagle & Anthony are both serious spuds & their presence in the side would make us less dangerous.

- we are obviously already trying to bulk up our forward line, illustrated by our efforts to recruit Hale when we though Bruce would still be here

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I hope you kids realise that even if Fitzpatrick is a good player - he is about 4 years away at least.

Yeah he is raw but hopefully we see him a bit sooner than 4 years. Any sort of physical change could occur within that time frame.


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Yeah he is raw but hopefully we see him a bit sooner than 4 years. Any sort of physical change could occur within that time frame.

Not just Jack. Any tall is going to take a decnt amount of time.

I reckon 23 is bit off, actually. 25.

See you in 6 years Jack.

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Wow.

So many comments to make.

- what does Bruce have to do with our forward line?

- what does Bruce have to do with bulking up any part of the field?

- Neagle & Anthony are both serious spuds & their presence in the side would make us less dangerous.

- we are obviously already trying to bulk up our forward line, illustrated by our efforts to recruit Hale when we though Bruce would still be here

ok your point taken BUT Hale what has he really done he is no better then Miller really

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Not just Jack. Any tall is going to take a decnt amount of time.

I reckon 23 is bit off, actually. 25.

See you in 6 years Jack.

6 years now, hell I'll be 40!

I suspect you'll be correct. I'm hoping his agility might allow him to prosper a little earlier than some of the taller types who rely on physical strength over anything else to become effective.

Posted (edited)

ok your point taken BUT Hale what has he really done he is no better then Miller really

Similar could be said about Anthony and Neagle...except you could say Miller is better

Edited by ox_5_demons
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Firstly, you should never trade for or draft a player that you don't believe will be in the best 22 (if it's an 18 yr old, you hope in the future they'll be a best 22 player). Neagle and Anthony are both average players who would not be in our best 22.

Secondly, our forward line doesn't need extra depth. We only lack one very specific kind of forward, the 196cm+ big-bodied crash-packing forward. We will not find this in Neagle and Anthony. It's a myth that we don't have enough forwards... Green, Jurrah, Watts, Pettard, Dunn, Bate, Sylvia, Wona, Bennel, Tapscott, Maric, Fitzpatrick (+ Davey, Jetta etc) say hi.

Edited by sylvinator
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I agree sylv, but it would be ideal if that missing forward could also relieve in the ruck.

Otherwise, bang on.

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- what does Bruce have to do with our forward line?

- what does Bruce have to do with bulking up any part of the field?

I think I may have read somewhere that we offered Bruce around 300K a year. (I stand to be corrected)

So we have the money to play around with, but Neagle is not the answer. Complete spud and is most likely going to be re-drafted by the bombers if anything.

Big Jack did kick a big bag in '09, but Collingwoods midfield - I hate to say it - can make almost any tall forward look good. We have enough 'lead up' type forwards already, what we need is a strong bodied player, who can can make a contest and pinch hit in the ruck.

Posted

This gun forward line your all talking about, this is the one that averaged about 11 - 12 goals a game for most of the year right ?


Posted (edited)

Go for a guy like Thorp with no strings attached or pluck a likely junior type from the draft or elsewhere to develop. We could live without one at the moment.

Edited by america de cali
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Firstly, you should never trade for or draft a player that you don't believe will be in the best 22 (if it's an 18 yr old, you hope in the future they'll be a best 22 player). Neagle and Anthony are both average players who would not be in our best 22.

Secondly, our forward line doesn't need extra depth. We only lack one very specific kind of forward, the 196cm+ big-bodied crash-packing forward. We will not find this in Neagle and Anthony. It's a myth that we don't have enough forwards... Green, Jurrah, Watts, Pettard, Dunn, Bate, Sylvia, Wona, Bennel, Tapscott, Maric, Fitzpatrick (+ Davey, Jetta etc) say hi.

Fair Call...

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Pass on Neagle. Wouldn't draft Anthony, but would have no problem putting him on the rookie list if he was keen.

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