I've just finished reading the David Schwarz book "All Bets Are Off". A truely fascinating biography about the Ox's childhood, his footy career and his gambling addiction. A roller-coaster ride of immense highs and lows from start to finish. Essential reading for all Melbourne supporters and anyone under the grips of a gambling addiction.

Pretty sure he was average at best in the vfl, what makes anyone think he has what it takes at afl level? I would have thought he would be tearing up the vfl (injury free) im sure the fd would have considered him as they did last year but I don't like his chances

Pretty sure ? Absolutely sure ? Or unsure ?

Thorp put together a few good quarters here and there. As 'Axe' stated he was thrown around alot and spent a bit of time down back as well as forward - filling holes and set tasks. But even started out on the wing a few times, such is his good endurance. Not forgetting he is somewhere around 194cm.

From memory he kicked 3 goals in a quarter against the Bullants pushing forward from up the field taking contested marks playing against at the time with the likes of Thornton & O'Hailpin. I thought that was worth mentioning as well as his apparent work rate off the ball and reading the play.

He could be an option playing in one's backline.

But he must keep persisting and working hard to improve.

Definitely a low risk, high reward rookie pick if you ask me.

Imagine the delicious irony if we acquire Thorp and he finally gets his house in order and comes on, as the hawks in turn acquire Bruce as be begins his slide into AFL anonymity...

I love hating Hawthorn.

Imagine the delicious irony if we acquire Thorp and he finally gets his house in order and comes on, as the hawks in turn acquire Bruce as be begins his slide into AFL anonymity...

I love hating Hawthorn.

It's almost worth picking him up just in hope that it pans out that way.

I hate Hawthorn

Imagine the delicious irony if we acquire Thorp and he finally gets his house in order and comes on, as the hawks in turn acquire Bruce as be begins his slide into AFL anonymity...

I love hating Hawthorn.

Bruce?

It would very nice indeed. Six picks, he has to be worth the punt this guy.

Pretty sure he was average at best in the vfl, what makes anyone think he has what it takes at afl level? I would have thought he would be tearing up the vfl (injury free) im sure the fd would have considered him as they did last year but I don't like his chances

he did kick 6 while being manned up by Tom Harley

Imagine the delicious irony if we acquire Thorp and he finally gets his house in order and comes on, as the hawks in turn acquire Bruce as be begins his slide into AFL anonymity...

I love hating Hawthorn.

Now that would bring a rather large smile to my face

I believe he is worth the punt and given that i know the MFC recruiters read and listen to everything that we say here on Demonland, i'm sure BP will agree with me and select him...

Somewhat irrelevant.

Why would that be irrelevant? If the guy had an attitude problem then it is clearly in the club's interest to ensure he doesn't have it any more (if indeed they are considering taking him).

Pretty relevant to me. Why do you think clubs take so much interest in a potential draft pick's family, schooling, leadership, attitude etc?

Wasted talent is a cliche but true. There's plenty of it around. Hundreds of examples of talented players that don't put in and ultimately fail.

Why would that be irrelevant?

Because I find it speculative (at best) 'nickname.' My understanding he wasn't referred to that last season. If anything it's a supporters nick from Hawks days.

did he get picked up?

No, I don't think he did.

Very very glad we steered clear.

I can't believe BP ignored my expert opinion....what would he know?

I can't believe BP ignored my expert opinion....what would he know?

Suspect the question is more what Viney knows from his time at Hawthorn. Worked for Campbell, looks like it worked against Thorp.