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[ElDiablo14 4,999]

Texans

Atlanta 

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[layzie 33,805]

On 08/10/2024 at 06:13, BDA said:

The pick he threw was bad but he was very good in the second half. the drive to win the game was close to perfect. Drove the length of the field and chewed up all the clock in the process.

I think Dak is good enough. We need another dependable receiver along with Lamb. Dowdle was good yesterday carrying the ball. a lot of defensive injuries are a big problem but i think we have the team to make a play-off run if we can stay healthy enough.

The weak link is the coach.

Agree.

Dak might not be an A grade QB but he's a pretty nice B grade QB who benefits from a good running game and line like 90% of other decent QBs. 

The NFC is a bit of a crapshoot at the moment, any team willing to reach for the brass ring can take it. 

Edited October 8 by layzie

[layzie 33,805]

23 hours ago, Macca said:

Further to the above

I've always thought that a tipped interception is not necessarily the fault of the QB.  To always blame the QB is poor analysis

Many times a WR can make a half-hearted effort or not put their body on the line thus creating a tipped ball situation

As an aside, the long throw Prescott interception yesterday was more of a circumstances interception rather than Dak's fault

As the play unfolded it turned out that the WR was outnumbered in a medium risk play.  But who called the play?  

Yeah or they just simply run the wrong route! Especially on a quick release play where the QB expected them to be there. Happens more often than people realise.

 

[layzie 33,805]

2 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Jets fire Saleh.
 

Didnt even get to talk to the players, but was escorted out of the building.

 

Pats to start Drake Maye this week.

Disappointing when that happens.

Funny because yesterday I was talking to a friend how I'd possibly trade Kyle to them for Saleh. I'd have him back as at least DC in a heartbeat. 

 

[Macca 16,969]

10 minutes ago, layzie said:

Yeah or they just simply run the wrong route! Especially on a quick release play where the QB expected them to be there. Happens more often than people realise.

 

I agree and I'm wondering why the appraisals and stats aren't more sophisticated

It's like people take delight in counting up the interceptions

I've seen stats where a QB has been intercepted twice and neither incident has been the QB's fault

[layzie 33,805]

Texans, Falcons, Bengals

[layzie 33,805]

3 minutes ago, Macca said:

I agree and I'm wondering why the appraisals and stats aren't more sophisticated

It's like people take delight in counting up the interceptions

I've seen stats where a QB has been intercepted twice and neither incident has been the QB's fault

Plenty of variables in interceptions.

What about when the QB makes a quick throw to a slant or hitch route and the linebacker ball hawks it perfectly? That's just a pure good defensive play. 

[Macca 16,969]

13 minutes ago, layzie said:

Plenty of variables in interceptions.

What about when the QB makes a quick throw to a slant or hitch route and the linebacker ball hawks it perfectly? That's just a pure good defensive play. 

As for the WR's, if they drop an easy catch it should be recorded as a 'Howler' haha

6 Rec

142 Yards

1 Colossal Howler Dropped Catch

WR's can pull the plug on a play but as previously noted, they may as well try and catch the ball because they are going to get hit anyway!!

 

[Macca 16,969]

3 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Jets fire Saleh.
 

Didnt even get to talk to the players, but was escorted out of the building.

 

Pats to start Drake Maye this week.

I'm wondering if Rodgers had anything to do with the sacking?

Once you hand over the keys, anything can happen

[Macca 16,969]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Agree.

Dak might not be an A grade QB but he's a pretty nice B grade QB who benefits from a good running game and line like 90% of other decent QBs. 

The NFC is a bit of a crapshoot at the moment, any team willing to reach for the brass ring can take it. 

As Rex Ryan constantly says ...

Build a great running game and that will make your passing game more potent ... ya gotta love Rex!

It's a pity that McCarthy has never bought into the above concept

[Gorgoroth 12,951]

31 minutes ago, Macca said:

I'm wondering if Rodgers had anything to do with the sacking?

Once you hand over the keys, anything can happen

The owner was asked and blatantly said the he did not talk to Aaron about it.

28 minutes ago, Macca said:

As Rex Ryan constantly says ...

Build a great running game and that will make your passing game more potent ... ya gotta love Rex!

It's a pity that McCarthy has never bought into the above concept

He could speak to McVay and show him Williams numbers and ask him why... just why does he get away from a guy who is killing it especially in the red zone.

I mean he has as many TD's as Dickerson and more than Faulk in his first 16 games and they are all time greats!

[Macca 16,969]

5 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

The owner was asked and blatantly said the he did not talk to Aaron about it

2 things

(A) Why didn't he talk to Rodgers?

(B) I don't believe that he didn't talk to Rodgers

There was an incident a few weeks ago when the coach went to hug Rodgers and Aaron pushed him away ... Rodgers made light of it but it wasn't a good look

It's my belief that the Jets organisation (not the coach) handed over the keys to Rodgers

But Aaron is really struggling and right now is playing like an old man

 

[Gorgoroth 12,951]

Texans Bengals Falcons

[Gorgoroth 12,951]

1 minute ago, Macca said:

2 things

(A) Why didn't he talk to Rodgers?

(B) I don't believe that he didn't talk to Rodgers

There was an incident a few weeks ago when the coach went to hug Rodgers and Aaron pushed him away ... Rodgers made light of it but it wasn't a good look

It's my belief that the Jets organisation (not the coach) handed over the keys to Rodgers

But Aaron is really struggling and right now is playing like an old man

 

I mean maybe he didnt speak to him cos Aaron had made it clear previously what he wanted?

Rumour of players not liking the OC who is Rodgers buddy is interesting.

[Macca 16,969]

10 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

He could speak to McVay and show him Williams numbers and ask him why... just why does he get away from a guy who is killing it especially in the red zone.

I mean he has as many TD's as Dickerson and more than Faulk in his first 16 games and they are all time greats!

The gunslinger QB's often get leaned on by the head coaches.  Stafford can be great at times so a coach might be easily tempted into just backing in the QB

Back to the Pats/Beluchick/Brady era where Bill (rightfully) ruled the roost.  As great as Brady was, he wasn't in charge

Same as Ferguson ruled the roost at Man Utd (13 Titles under the Alex reign) 

[layzie 33,805]

42 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

The owner was asked and blatantly said the he did not talk to Aaron about it.

He could speak to McVay and show him Williams numbers and ask him why... just why does he get away from a guy who is killing it especially in the red zone.

I mean he has as many TD's as Dickerson and more than Faulk in his first 16 games and they are all time greats!

I see that and I raise you Shanahan, seemingly on the cutting edge of run game and play-action driven offenses and when the league starts to turn that way he suddenly wants to have Purdy drop back 100 times a game like he's Peyton Manning. 

[Gorgoroth 12,951]

5 minutes ago, layzie said:

I see that and I raise you Shanahan, seemingly on the cutting edge of run game and play-action driven offenses and when the league starts to turn that way he suddenly wants to have Purdy drop back 100 times a game like he's Peyton Manning. 

Yeah I've noticed that, and with CMC out I sort of get that but Deebo has been injured, Aiyuk missed all off season and your RB is killing it. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,216]

@Macca no favouritism?

 

https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1843736615992381903

[Dr. Gonzo 24,216]

1 hour ago, Macca said:

2 things

(A) Why didn't he talk to Rodgers?

(B) I don't believe that he didn't talk to Rodgers

There was an incident a few weeks ago when the coach went to hug Rodgers and Aaron pushed him away ... Rodgers made light of it but it wasn't a good look

It's my belief that the Jets organisation (not the coach) handed over the keys to Rodgers

But Aaron is really struggling and right now is playing like an old man

 

He spoke to Rodgers Monday but said they didn't specifically discuss Saleh 😂😂

Saleh was considering firing Hackett then was beaten to the lunch with the tap on the shoulder

Saleh seems like a nice guy but was a terrible HC. How much will change considering the problems are mainly on offense? On the one hand I'm glad they pulled the trigger on this as the season is still salvageable, on the other they should have just done it in the offseason and things may fall apart quickly.

Any chance Belichick comes in and rights the wrongs of 2000?

Edited October 9 by Dr. Gonzo

[Macca 16,969]

9 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

@Macca no favouritism?

 

https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1843736615992381903

Well maybe a little bit!!  haha

[Macca 16,969]

12 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

He spoke to Rodgers Monday but said they didn't specifically discuss Saleh 😂😂

Saleh was considering firing Hackett then was beaten to the lunch with the tap on the shoulder

Saleh seems like a nice guy but was a terrible HC. How much will change considering the problems are mainly on offense? On the one hand I'm glad they pulled the trigger on this as the season is still salvageable, on the other they should have just done it in the offseason and things may fall apart quickly.

Any chance Belichick comes in and rights the wrongs of 2000?

Now that I'd like to see ... for any number of reasons

Principally because of the clash of Ego's between Belichick & Rodgers!!  And Bill could only improve the Jets from your position right now

The AFC East is not the NFC North!!

I was just thinking today on why Bill isn't coaching.  Forget his age, the man is a genius 

I hope you at least talk to Belichick

[layzie 33,805]

14 minutes ago, Macca said:

Now that I'd like to see ... for any number of reasons

Principally because of the clash of Ego's between Belichick & Rodgers!!  And Bill could only improve the Jets from your position right now

The AFC East is not the NFC North!!

I was just thinking today on why Bill isn't coaching.  Forget his age, the man is a genius 

I hope you at least talk to Belichick

What a romantic headline that would be! Like winter wonderland stuff if it happened.

Would make Gruden back to the Raiders look like a teen movie.

[Macca 16,969]

14 minutes ago, layzie said:

What a romantic headline that would be! Like winter wonderland stuff if it happened.

Would make Gruden back to the Raiders look like a teen movie.

Oddly enough, I reckon Rodgers would be happy to do it Bill's way if Belichick was appointed.  9 wins might win the AFC East so the playoffs isn't a pipe dream for the Jets

 

[Gorgoroth 12,951]

Yeah I reckon Rodgers would listen to Bill.