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i'd be [censored] if we wasted a top pick on a pinch-hitting ruckman. Hawks won the flag last year without a decent ruckman. you don't need a good one.

I'm inclinded to agree. I'd just question whether a team could have long term success without a ruckman.

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You wouldn't have taken Kreuzer?

I would have, but with the picks we may have come seasons end, I'd prefer two mids or one mid and a KPF.

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hell no.

i would have picked up cotchin or rioli. most ruckman dont provide anything other than hitouts to a neutral position.

My Carlton mate tells me, they hope to play him at centre half forward and put the hack Cloke in the ruck. But with their mids, the tap may not be vital, but marking targets inside 50 will be. They hope Kreuzer will provide the other tall marking target.

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For those of us that dont know as much about the potential draftees, could you tell me a bit about Morabito please?

From Jason McCartney's preview of Div 1 Guns:

Anthony Morabito: Supremely talented and athletic utility who can play forward. Exceptionally skilled and a member of Western Australia's squad at last year's championships. Can do magical things. AIS/AFL Academy graduate.

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Perhaps you noticed a guy called Reiwoldt playing for the other team?

Why can't we have both like the Dawks?

I will be happy so long as we DON'T use our early draft selections (at least the first 4) for another 'utility' (read not convincing at any one position but too good to be let go so they are keep on the list to try and fill holes. Wheatley, Bruce, Bate, Dunn, Bartram and probably Buckley).

I understand the argument about good average mids being 'a dime a dozen', and agree, but I also think that elite mids are 'rare as hens teeth' and are clearly a level above the 'good average'.

We also desperately need another KP forward that has the size to develop into a genuine power forward.

All things being equal, if Scully is a clear No. 1 I would not hesitate to take him and then the best tall thereafter (if we have picks one and two of course), unless of course the best tall is ranked well behind a handful of other players.

The strategy of drafting the best player available is a sound 'conservative' approach with probably a higher rate of success than drafting for type. However, Hawthorn (yes them again) drafted for type in 2007 (Rioli and Dew) and look what happened. It could be argued that drafting for type has a far greater upside for the team but with more risk of failure.

Go Dees

I think/hope we may have the Reiwoldt type, = watts???

I know we need a power forward, (Kozinski)?, a Lloyd type 192cm will do me

Watching the game as it's rapidly changed over the last 3/4 years, I wonder now that the trend/advantage is with the pacy mobile midfielders.

I couldn't help but feel that the saints were indeed top heavy Friday Night & only fell over the line.

They were cracking under the relentless pressure applied by Carltons ability to cause contests out of Saints held ball, & get numbers to the contests. The Blue baggers have a huge amount of growth in that team to come & we DEES will be trying to compete with them in years to come. We are IMO way behind their mids at this stage lacking mids who win the contested ball & Have Pace.

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My Carlton mate tells me, they hope to play him at centre half forward and put the hack Cloke in the ruck. But with their mids, the tap may not be vital, but marking targets inside 50 will be. They hope Kreuzer will provide the other tall marking target.

I also see Kruezer doing that - they'll play him like a Paul Salmon in the next couple of years.

Personally I would've taken Cotchin. No question. The kid will in a brownlow imho

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im sorry but 192cm is the worst height. its almost undraftable. Sure there are some great players that are around 192cm..but alot of the time they are simply caught out for being too small for a key position and too crap for a midfielder. just look at bate and dunn.


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im sorry but 192cm is the worst height. its almost undraftable. Sure there are some great players that are around 192cm..but alot of the time they are simply caught out for being too small for a key position and too crap for a midfielder. just look at bate and dunn.

Wow. 2 players out of the entire AFL. You really make a convincing argument.

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im sorry but 192cm is the worst height. its almost undraftable. Sure there are some great players that are around 192cm..but alot of the time they are simply caught out for being too small for a key position and too crap for a midfielder. just look at bate and dunn.

maybe we can get them to wear high heels :lol:

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im sorry but 192cm is the worst height. its almost undraftable. Sure there are some great players that are around 192cm..but alot of the time they are simply caught out for being too small for a key position and too crap for a midfielder. just look at bate and dunn.

It is an awkward height, I agree.

However isn't Morton 193? I would say that for this day and age, an athletic player at 192-193 would be worthwhile getting.

But I agree, gone are the days of the bustling Mathew Lloyds. Bate is far too big and slow. Dunn is just shizen.

Would Waite for Carlton be around that height? He is a good athletic mobile player.

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my point isnt really 'name all the players that are 192cm in the afl'..its the name all the 192cm that just missed out on being drafted. the list goes on forever.

ANyway here is a video of morabito at last years champs:

And a video of luke tapscott, who i rate.

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im sorry but 192cm is the worst height. its almost undraftable. Sure there are some great players that are around 192cm..but alot of the time they are simply caught out for being too small for a key position and too crap for a midfielder. just look at bate and dunn.

I actually agree with you but I don't think it's as clear cut as you make it out to be.

How tall would Fevola be?

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Need I repeat

"my point isnt really 'name all the players that are 192cm in the afl'..its the name all the 192cm that just missed out on being drafted. the list goes on forever".

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not that it is a big deal.. everyone has off games.. but did anyone notice Butcher didnt kick a goal or wasnt even nominated for best on ground against SA?

U18s: SA ends Vic Country's run

SOUTH Australia has ended Vic Country’s unbeaten run at the NAB AFL Under-18s Championships with an upset 51-point win at AAMI Stadium on Sunday.

The home side led from start to finish in a masterful display of wet-weather football.

The Croweaters, through the help of usual suspects Jack Trengove, Alex Carey and Hayden Jolly, kicked four goals to one in the opening term to lead by 15 points at the first break.

The rain set in during the second quarter, but it failed to derail South Australia.

Taite Silverlock and Matthew Panos combined for five majors as the underdogs piled on seven goals straight for the term.

Goals to Vic Country duo David Astbury and Josh Cowan helped the visitors save some face, but the margin was still 43 points at the main break.

The weather subsided in the third quarter, but only two goals were added to the scoreboard and the South Aussies held onto a 44-point break at the final change.

Strong marking forward Andrew Hooper got Vic Metro off to a good start with a goal in the opening minutes of the last quarter, but a fourth to Panos snuffed out any hope of a comeback.

SA skipper Trengove continued his brilliant carnival with another 27 possessions, seven clearances and three goals in a little over three quarters of football.

Silverlock racked up 20 touches and six inside50ms to go with his bag of three and Derek Wanganeen showed glimpses of brilliance in his 25 disposals.

Simon Potts and Daniel Menzel were solid in defence.

For Vic Country, Ben Cunnington battled hard for 19 possessions and a goal and Astbury and Andrew Hooper were lively.

South Australia 4.1 11.1 12.5 16.9 (105)

Vic Country 1.4 3.6 4.9 7.12 (54)

GOALS

South Australia: Panos 4, Trengove, Silverlock 3, Carey, Solly 2, Wilson, Tapscott Vic Country: Hooper 3, Cunnington, Astbury, Cowan, Mackenzie

BEST

South Australia: Trengove, Wanganeen, Jolly, Silverlock, Panos, Carey, Potts, Menzel

Vic Country: Cunnington, Astbury, Hooper, Rohan, Peters

Trengove looks like he will be a star!!

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not that it is a big deal.. everyone has off games.. but did anyone notice Butcher didnt kick a goal or wasnt even nominated for best on ground against SA?

But did Butcher play?


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are u an idiot or are u an idiot. its coz most of them are playing local footy because they didnt get drafted u [censored].

Ok genius, considering most draft picks are still growing this list will include players that are listed at 192 and 193cm (besides the fact they could easily grow to 194-195cm or more)

Matthew Scarlett

Tom Harley

Nick Riewoldt

Grant Birchall

Sam Fisher

Chad Cornes

Darren Glass

Matthew Lloyd

Ben Rutten

Matthew Pavlich

Jarryd Roughead

Andrew Mackie

Scott Lucas

Nathan Bock

Jared Brennan

Chris Tarrant

John Anthony

David Mundy

Michael Jamison

Harry Taylor

Paul Bower

Luke McPharlin

Stephen Gilham

Ryan Schoenmakers

Trent Hentschel

Bret Thornton

Ryan Murphy

Nick Maxwell

Prestigiacomo

Alipate Carlisle

Brad Fisher

Tom Lynch

Alex Rance

Jack Riewoldt

Heath Grundy

Jarryd Allen

Andrejs Everitt

Ted Richards

Michael Hurley

Lewis Johnston

Jarrad Grant

Andy Otten

Fevola (191)

Goddard (191)

Hudghton (191)

Which ones would you not take if given the chance?

Or is this just another case of conventional wisdom not necessarily being determined by the actual facts..?

Back in your box, moron

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But did Butcher play?

This from BF by someone who attended the match:

"Also was quite dissapointed with with Butcher. Have heard alot of good things about him but today he seemed to lack intensity and clean hands. The conditions wouldnt have helped him though"

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Need I repeat

"my point isnt really 'name all the players that are 192cm in the afl'..its the name all the 192cm that just missed out on being drafted. the list goes on forever".

What is the point in listing the ones that don't make it? How about listing all the ones that are 186cm and don't make it? or the ones that are 181cm that don't make it?

That's not an argument.

The kid will make it, they wouldn't be talking about him as a top 10 pick if he wasn't going to.

You don't really think anything through, do you? you just like an argument.

What a waste of time you are...

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I don't think it's that easy to find decent mids, just look at our midfield.

I said easier, not easy - it's a relative term.

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I'm 180 centimetres and didn't make it, maybe if I was 192cm I'd have an excuse

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Having watched lots of Anthony in the juniors and now at 18s/reserves level .. he reminds me so much of Jarrod Waite.

He's agile, tall, lanky ... and has a bag of some rather incredible tricks (sometimes he tries too hard though lol)

However, untill he gets his kicking technique right .. he will drop down come the draft.

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