Whats with our plan for kick ins? The guy stands in the goal square and out players run to with 20m of them and the others on the half forward line stand there like dills! Is that the plan coz if it is then it wont take teams long to figure it out. Anyone else notice this yesterday?

Whats with our plan for kick ins? The guy stands in the goal square and out players run to with 20m of them and the others on the half forward line stand there like dills! Is that the plan coz if it is then it wont take teams long to figure it out. Anyone else notice this yesterday?

Very much so Azz. That is what I meant by having even the most basic of game plans, as I posted on another topic.

Very frustrating. It's amazing how many counter punches are set up by opposition teams from their kick ins, against us

It was stupid, all around me people we yelling, "Move for him!" and they just stood there not even tring to get into space.

It was stupid, all around me people we yelling, "Move for him!" and they just stood there not even tring to get into space.

Did it ever occur to you, that they're positioning themselves to move into space for 'the next phase" of the transition after the initial kick in. I noticed Garland taking quite a few kick-ins, spotting up a teammate 20-30 metres out, with precision. From there it was distributed by hand/foot to those - on the move - who were originally standing outside 50m from the initial kick-in.

Did it ever occur to you, that they're positioning themselves to move into space for 'the next phase" of the transition after the initial kick in. I noticed Garland taking quite a few kick-ins, spotting up a teammate 20-30 metres out, with precision. From there it was distributed by hand/foot to those - on the move - who were originally standing outside 50m from the initial kick-in.

Possible strategy due to lack of marking power throughout the list

Possible strategy due to lack of marking power throughout the list

Quite possibly.

DL and HT, you both may be right, but it strikes me as totally counter productive to say, we don't have the skill, so we won't try anything new. Clearly our kick out strategy can be seen from the moon and is covered by opposition sides more often than not.

This puts our skill level - or lack of it - under even greater pressure, resulting in turnovers. I would just like to see a bit more daring in our plan.

"Very frustrating. It's amazing how many counter punches are set up by opposition teams from their kick ins, against us "

Funnily enough I took note of the 'score sources' CD stats this morning. North scored 0.1 from their kick-ins. Not that they really needed to though.

"Very frustrating. It's amazing how many counter punches are set up by opposition teams from their kick ins, against us "

Funnily enough I took note of the 'score sources' CD stats this morning. North scored 0.1 from their kick-ins. Not that they really needed to though.

What was "our" result/stat Trident?

"Very frustrating. It's amazing how many counter punches are set up by opposition teams from their kick ins, against us "

Funnily enough I took note of the 'score sources' CD stats this morning. North scored 0.1 from their kick-ins. Not that they really needed to though.

My observation is a general one and was not specifically related to yesterday's game. However, it is not just a scoring shot that results directly from an opposition kick in that worries me, it the regular ease the opposition manage to take the ball out of their defence and scores that result from second and third plays, following that kick out.

DL and HT, you both may be right, but it strikes me as totally counter productive to say, we don't have the skill, so we won't try anything new. Clearly our kick out strategy can be seen from the moon and is covered by opposition sides more often than not.

This puts our skill level - or lack of it - under even greater pressure, resulting in turnovers. I would just like to see a bit more daring in our plan.

Its obviously going to take time to get the strategies working, that they are trying to implement.

I back the coaching panels nouse over the young players ability to execute strategies effectively at this time.

From our defensive kick-ins, I thought we were much improved from last year.

The use of short kicks and handballing triangles were much more effective than the blind kicks to 60m out that were a feature of last year's play.

There were some risks taken, but that is how you have to play to try to beat a zonal defence.

Even if it is the next phase, they still didn't move and constantly went to the right of goal along the boundary line. One miss mark and it goes out of bounds, if it is the game plan IT SUCKS.

At least we're hitting our OWN targets this year!

I'm a cup one-quarter full type of girl :D

IWS: Fair enough, just thought it was worth highlighting that we did ok on that score for once

HT: We kicked 3.0 from kick-ins.

It was not a part of our game that stuck out yesterday.

I thought that at imes we spotted up a target alright and the run from behind was not too bad.

our turnovers still haunt us though and an inability to convert!!

we will enter the 50 less than our opponents, so we need to be better at converting and yesterday we lacked some polish.

IWS: Fair enough, just thought it was worth highlighting that we did ok on that score for once

HT: We kicked 3.0 from kick-ins.

Cheers Trident. Not a bad result from kick-ins in comparison to North's 0.1. We won by 17 points in that department. That's a win!

I've got a plan for kick ins.

DON"T LET BUCKLEY DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The sooner we get Wheatley and Wheels back in there for kick ins the more comfortable I will be.

we will enter the 50 less than our opponents, so we need to be better at converting and yesterday we lacked some polish.

Why does that have to be the case RD?

The two problems we have when kicking out are that the player with the ball usually takes too long, and the other players don't move into open space. Too often 3 or 4 of our players stand around far too close to each other, when they should be leading into the gaps to provide options.

But the kick ins weren't as bad yesterday as they have been in the past.

purely because of our lack of a target inside 50.

how many times last year did we go inside our forward 50 more than our opponents....

i think that it is an area of weakness at the moment - will be improved but paul johnson, bate and miller struggled to take a mark let a,one get enar the footy!!