Who had a better first year?

[Yencks 8]

The thing that i hate most, is that opposition supporters think that cyril riolis and alwyn daveys first seasons were much more exiting than aarons first season but i dont think there is much difference...

i am not saying that aaron is better, because i dont think he is...i still think alwyn is the best

however,

i do not have stats but both aaron and cyril cam 2nd in rising star

and i have a feeling aaron got more goals

and i know cyril is a freak and so is alwyn but watching aaron daveys first season was still trully exiting

i think its fair to say, that he was the first of those really light and extrememly speedy small indeginous forwards that are famous for their defensive pressure, in a long time

i also think its fair to say, that if aaron davey and alwyn davey were never born (i know this is VERY hypothetical) but i dont think cyril rioli would have been taken at such a low pick if it wasnt for these two

people would have thought his body wouldnt cope in the AFL

thoughts?

btw, i would love alwyn davey to come to melbourne if any of those rumours were true, just look at this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4dRUSDVH2w

[Guest Chopper]

I'd say Cyril & Aaron's years were around equal. I voted for Aaron Davey though.

He came from no where to have such an impact. Thats something real special.

[Tigers Dayz 2]

Hard to split Aaron and Cyril really. I've gone for Aaron, his speed, line breaking and offensive/defense were amazing. Cyril's ball-on-the-string and finishing skills are sublime.

[Hannabal 4]

Cyril easily.

[beelzebub 22,724]

Cyril for me as well. Aaron had a good first year with some great moments, as he still does..( though I fid him also one of the most frustrating at the club )

Cyril had a GREAT year ..simple as that

[do it 4 robbie 1]

Cyril`s got it all

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,641]

Cyril Rioli by virtue of the fact that he played every game in his debut year, which is a great effort considering he plays for the 2nd best team in the AFL.

Interesting that they both finished 2nd in the NAB rising star in their respective debut years.

[45HG 1,539]

Cyril Rioli by virtue of the fact that he played every game in his debut year, which is a great effort considering he plays for the 2nd best team in the AFL.

Interesting that they both finished 2nd in the NAB rising star in their respective debut years.

Davey played every game in his first year, untill he did his hamy against the Dogs, and up to that stage we were in the top two teams in the comp. Having come off the rookie list that year, I'd rate it as an amazing performance.

But yeah, very hard to split Rioli and Davey, I've gone for Davey but that could be pure bias

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AARON DAVEY

Year Team No. Games (W-D-L) Kicks Marks H.Balls Disp Goals Bhd H.O. Tack FrF FrA BM

2004 Melbourne 36 19 (12-0-7) 131 21 50 181 28 20 50 13 8

CYRIL RIOLI

Year Team No. Games (W-D-L) Kicks Marks H.Balls Disp Goals Bhd H.O. Tack FrF FrA BM

2008 Hawthorn 33 22 (17-0-5) 175 86 129 304 20 18 78 23 18

Davey kicked 8 more goals in 3 fewer games than Rioli. Looking at the stats there was more return or more quality rather than quantity. But they are both quality players in their own right. Rioli does look a more polished player. Both came 2nd in the NAB. Hard to separate as the voting indicates.

If I was asked to choose between them now. I'd take Rioli.

People have to remember there was just as much talk if not more of Davey back in 2004 than there was of Rioli this year. Had Davey finished off his last three games that year he may have beaten Rivers for the NAB, plus kicked up to 35 goals.

One stat that does stand out is Rioli has taken far more marks, in fact 123 more possessions overall (with 3 more games than Davey).

Alwyn Davey's season is not as flash as these two.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Junior (They said on the radio no one calls him Cyril)!

[Bails 0]

please dont ask me how i know coz i cant tell and i will be tempted!!

But Alwyn Davey is staying at Essendon and it was his request!

[H_T 2,941]

please dont ask me how i know coz i cant tell and i will be tempted!!

But Alwyn Davey is staying at Essendon and it was his request!

Good.

[Yencks 8]

please dont ask me how i know coz i cant tell and i will be tempted!!

But Alwyn Davey is staying at Essendon and it was his request!

it was his request for what?

[Suzanna 72]

I thought Alwyn was on the Dees must have list.

[JACKATTACK 17]

Junior boy, but by not as much as their relative positions in the draft would suggest.

[mikeod 21]

Cyril is exactly like Aaron and relies on a good team around him to play well...

Both would be ordinary footballers in bad sides (as has been proven to an extent with Aaron).

[Bobby McKenzie 2,268]

Cyril is exactly like Aaron and relies on a good team around him to play well...

Both would be ordinary footballers in bad sides (as has been proven to an extent with Aaron).

On a historical note, our best first year player ever would have to go to Ken Melville in 1953. He won MFC Best and Fairest! In the same team was non other than Ron Barassi. Not a bad effort.

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On a historical note, our best first year player ever would have to go to Ken Melville in 1953. He won MFC Best and Fairest! In the same team was non other than Ron Barassi. Not a bad effort.

A.Jackovich went alright in his debut year.