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Outside our ODI loss to Bangladesh in Cardiff in 2005 this is the most putrid thing I've ever seen from our Cricket team.

The only way to save face is to pull off a remarkable come back in this match. But I don't see the match winners there.

 

Runs-wise, the 3rd best 8 wicket haul in the game's history.

 

All out for 60, 20 minutes before lunch.

Most likely outcome is England is something like 2/200 at stumps, I'd say. Make 300, bat once, do us tomorrow and beat us within two days.

Nevill bowled, Warner caught behind on the inside edge (the only batsman to truly be beaten by an unplayable ball). The other 8 wickets were all caught in the slips, almost everyone with bad technique.

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Broad's figures are the best 8-wicket haul since 1896

 

The last 5 survived 83 balls. The bottom two survived 35. The top 6 … 31.

Top score X(avier) Tras with 14. 11LBs and 3NBs

Should we ask the ICC for a priority pick at the end of series?


Good to see both Starc & Hazlewood spray at least one each in the first two overs!

Aust bowlers can't make them play. Not good.

England 47 behind on the 1st innings at lunch on the 1st day with 10 wickets in hand.

Been calling all week that Siddle should have played here.

When we loose this test and series, the selectors are going to have to go back to the drawing board and make a decision on how they want to build this team going forward.

Need to start to take the same approach with selection that the side did in the late 80's to build that era of dominance.

Been calling all week that Siddle should have played here.

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Can he bat?

I am waiting for someone to post that this would not have happen if Shane Watson was given a fair go and still there.


Been calling all week that Siddle should have played here.

When we loose this test and series, the selectors are going to have to go back to the drawing board and make a decision on how they want to build this team going forward.

Need to start to take the same approach with selection that the side did in the late 80's to build that era of dominance.

Siddle doesn't make runs though.

Have a look at Voges' face when he got out. A shrug as if to say 'well, I got done by a great catch'. Yes, a stunning catch, but you got out because your technique is abysmal. Classic Australian batting - couldn't possibly be a flaw in the technique, it's all fine and it'll work eventually (i.e. next Australian summer).

Can he bat?

I am waiting for someone to post that this would not have happen if Shane Watson was given a fair go and still there.

Siddle doesn't make runs though.

Have a look at Voges' face when he got out. A shrug as if to say 'well, I got done by a great catch'. Yes, a stunning catch, but you got out because your technique is abysmal. Classic Australian batting - couldn't possibly be a flaw in the technique, it's all fine and it'll work eventually (i.e. next Australian summer).

Aust bowlers can't make them play. Not good.

England 47 behind on the 1st innings at lunch on the 1st day with 10 wickets in hand.

In relation to not being able to bowl the ball in the right spot.

In relation to not being able to bowl the ball in the right spot.

I agree Siddle should be playing, but the obvious issue isn't the bowling, it's the batting.

We need to be finding new young talent to replace Rogers, Clarke and Voges, and at the moment we don't have anyone standing up for those spots. S Marsh is in form but continues to make ducks at Test level. Meanwhile Smith's technique is being worked over, again.

Our home summer is against New Zealand and West Indies. NZ is good but I'm sure in our conditions we'll see our batsmen making big runs and everyone, yet again, saying there's nothing wrong with the batsmen. Until we next go to England or India.

I agree Siddle should be playing, but the obvious issue isn't the bowling, it's the batting.

We need to be finding new young talent to replace Rogers, Clarke and Voges, and at the moment we don't have anyone standing up for those spots. S Marsh is in form but continues to make ducks at Test level. Meanwhile Smith's technique is being worked over, again.

Our home summer is against New Zealand and West Indies. NZ is good but I'm sure in our conditions we'll see our batsmen making big runs and everyone, yet again, saying there's nothing wrong with the batsmen. Until we next go to England or India.

I agree our batting depth has been an issue for awhile.

I think it's time that we identified some youngsters with good technique and give them 15-20 Tests before making a call on them.

Two batsmen who spring to mind are Usman Khawaja & Peter Handscomb. Khawaja because of technique and Handscomb his ability to play against spin.

There's a two test series v Bangladesh before our home summer. I'd be happy to see them partenr Khawaja with Warner at the top of the order and Handscomb bat at 4 and give them the series plus the home summer and then some. We all know how much Steve Waugh & Matthew Hayden struggled early in their careers.

Terrible batting performance and the start with the ball not much better. We really have been stiff to lose the great Ryan Harris before this series.

I don't know what the answers to our batting problems are but I'm pretty confident it's not S Marsh or Voges.

We need young players who are committed to test cricket and the technique and mindset required. The hitting that works in limited overs cricket just isn't the same as proper test match batting.


Well the Ashes defence is as good as over. Already more then 200 behind after Day 1 and England still have 6 wickets in hand. This has been a more meek performance then anything i can ever remember England dishing up during their horrendous era of the late 80's to early 2000's.

Heads will roll no doubt and i think it's time we did away of this obsession of picking batsmen to debut in their mid 30's. It's time we unearthed some young batting talent. I also think it's time to go back to Siddle with Harris having retired. Hazlewood & Starc control has been left wanting this series, so Siddle's experience will be key.

I also think it's time to take the captaincy off Clarke and give it to Smith. Lets just tell Clarke to bat at 5 and concentrate on making runs. I also think as far as the keeper goes that we should go old school and just pick the best gloveman. I like Nevill, but during this rebuild i think we should focus on a keeper who takes all opportunities rather then runs.

So for The Oval I'd drop Shaun Marsh and Voges as neither are the future. I'd also drop Hazlewood and Starc as i think they're both spent and have struggled for consistency. And i'd also drop Nevill.

Bring in Watson and Haddin to join Rogers in a farewell game, Mitch Marsh to get more cricket into him. The long awaited return of Cummins and old reliable Siddle. After the Ashes I can see a rough XI of:

Khawaja

Warner (vc)

Smith*

Handscomb

Clarke

M. Marsh

+Hartley or Ludeman

Johnson

Siddle

Cummins, Hazlewood, Pattinson or Starc

Lyon

But that will be one for the selectors.

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Is this because Haddin was booted? If so, the majority of the team should be turned over. If not, probably still the case.

Is this because Haddin was booted? If so, the majority of the team should be turned over. If not, probably still the case.

If it is, then they've got no respect for themselves or the baggy green!

 

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