Generation dee

Pat dangerfield for pick 2. Used to love Neil craig, even though he is contracted, he was fairly close to leaving Adelaide last time round.

Good choices. I think cross would be a very capable player. Like you say, he isn't a world beater any more, but he will put in for the club. Leroy jetta is a very unusual player, each year he comes in and looks like he has taken the next step, but after 4 or 5 games he falls back to that lackadaisical approach that has ultimately seen him passed by Dempsey, winderlich, zaharakis etc. I've been thinking these past few weeks that bernie vince just might be a bloke looking for a change, even though his farming family is located north of Adelaide and he is fairly close to them.

Adelaide are locked out until 3rd round too. I'd imagine they are looking for a top 30 pick. Vince just might be available.

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't make it clear that they are all that is potentially available? Really?

Bernie vince, Daniel cross, Levi greenwood or Jesse stringer are about the top midfielders attainable by trading I think. Throw in Adams, dale Thomas and that's about the most available talent there is. Or dayle garlett.

When I hear the following from a commentator, I'll know to pinch myself- "Beautiful kick by Nicholson into centre half forward" "Tapscott picking up a lot of footy across half forward and really getting involved in field play" "Strauss really physical in that last contest with kurt tippet" "Jordie Mckenzie really spreading well today, becoming that link up player through the centre of the ground and really penetrating with his disposal inside 50" I jest old dee, but wouldn't it be great!

I like it rpfc, but again I really find it difficult to see a player from an opposition club who we could trade in. Bernie vince may be one, Jesse stringer, Taylor Adams or maybe Craig bird but I doubt he would leave. None of these players are going to win games for us off their own boot, however they will add to our current midfield. I'm of the opinion that we need one and it was top 10, but I also rather that we were in a position where we didn't need it and tapscott, nicho, bail, Strauss, blease and trengove all develop strongly over the last part of the season.

Did you read all my post robbie? I said our pick 2 goes to Carlton, and their pick 6 or 8 or whatever that pick is, plus Chris yarran or Kane Lucas came to us.

Oh yeah- you're one of those guys who bag the club for playing youngsters, blame them for trying to bring in mature players to fill the gaps, now blame them for trying to develop players? Give US a break!

Cheers db, but if you missed last week Kelly was the absolute dominant player by far for metro. He probably kept them in arms reach of SA as billings, McDonald were all quiet. Expect Matt crouch to really firm into top 8 calculations. He is one of those team orientated players who really hits the ball hard. Good skills too.

Shows that you make decisions based on how they play in one game and don't take other things into account- growth, development etc.

It's hard to judge on one game dd, but aish is coming back from a shoulder injury and has missed a bit of footy. He is a class player. He might be this years version of rich/selwood/heppell who is rated very highly early on, but slips because of injury leading into the draft. I think he is on talent/skill he potentially is the most talented in this draft. Did you happen to see much of Reynolds for sa? I missed the early game. Jack billings really turning it on for metro!

Hence the word circumstantial being in both of my replies to you...

They were just examples p-man. I think yarran will be offered around at the end of this season. You could make a case for any club though, freo- Chris mayne or viv michie, Adelaide- bernie vince, Brisbane- Jared polec, saints- montagna. Purely speculating as I said it all depends on what gws want and what happens at number 1. But if we had the chance to downgrade from pick 2 to receive pick 6-14 plus a decent player, what would we be after? That was the hypothetical.

Melbourne rjay. I meant trade our pick to them for yarran/Lucas and their first rounder. As I said, outside the box, and very circumstantial. But if we add a player we need as well as a top 10 pick also, it could suit us better than taking aish/sheed and them needing another preseason or 2 before getting up to speed. If we grabbed a nick vlaustin, ollie wines type with their pick 7ish, plus the player, we also look after ourselves short and longer term.

Ok. So add kristian jaksch onto that list of their tall forwards. Read all my post pal, was very circumstantial.

Really don't see what all of the fuss is about. Priority picks and bonuses? I'm more more interested in the players on our list sticking together and saying "it's up to us to change and make us a stronger club". I'd rather see us improve with viney, toumpas, Kent and jones another preseason, Evans, nicho, trengove, grimes, terlich, tommy mac, blease, Strauss and watts all keep naturally improving by playing games together and with the addition of pick 2 (or 3,4) pick 20ish and a big chase of dale Thomas or Taylor Adams, we could improve a lot quicker than everyone thinks. If buddy franklin joins up with gws, which would most likely put them out of the running for Tom Boyd, what are everyone's thoughts on trading say, our pick 2 to Carlton for yarran or Lucas and their pick 7ish, or st kilda for their pick 5ish and maybe a 2year deal for montagna or dal santo. I only mention this as IF gws would overlook Boyd, they would jump for the chance to get him.

Uhhhhhhh......?

Reported on seven news tonight that "Melbourne still remain committed to snaring Paul roos as coach next year, and have reportedly gone cold on Mark Williams." It was seven news, and it was sandy Roberts. So taken with a grain of salt, however it seems that roos is first, second and third preference. Neil Craig probably rounds out the top 4.

That's fair, I also forgot they have to cut their list size over the next year or 2. I wonder if they would take a fitzy, Dunn or Davis? Probably ask for gawn, hogan or frawley though won't they. I'd entertain Jordy, jamar, spencer or possibly blease or Strauss.

3rd round, 5th round and 1st round(10-20) I think Adams is most desired, the other two aren't really guys with a huge scope for improvement.

At the ground, it's often harder to realise who is going well in stats and who isn't. For example, I thought col Sylvia was bloody good tonight, real intensity and purpose, some great chasing and some of his skills were first rate. Yet watts I thought was a few lapses in concentration from kicking 7. For mine, live 6-terlich 5-n jones 4-Sylvia 3-watts 2-nicho 1-gawn Dawes was great, frawley and Rodan unlucky. Nice change to have excessive best players to pick, opposed to struggling to fill the 3,2,1!!

Don't disagree with you saying he isn't part of the future. But he is the bottom tier of players on a list of 40. I think Rodan adds an element of X factor and speed, he definitely holds up a place while grimes viney etc are injured and Kent, toumpas keep learning. Also cover for Matt jones if he gets tired. I think your displeasure should be focused more at the recruitment and development of the 2008-2011 period, than worrying about that of Rodan filling in for a season or 2 while juniors develop..

For every Shane Valenti, there is a Michael Barlow. There is Dayne Zorko, there is an Ian Callinan, a Danny Stanley. A lot of blokes who perform at second tier level but don't have the chance until they get a bit older. I've already mentioned Magner earlier in my posts.

Yeah, I think we've been burnt previously gifting games to players who haven't handled the step up. I think the guys like Kent viney and terlich have that aggression and self belief to back themselves early on in an afl game, where as I think taggert, strauss, tynan etc are all still dealing with confidence and body issues. Still doesn't excuse why magner keeps ticking over big vfl numbers and can't have a sustained run at the top level, yet Byrnes/Rodan do. Must be Byrnes and Rodan can do a lot more with 10 disposals than magner does with 20. Would love an answer!