spirit of norm smith

MFC social media “Let’s finish the Melbourne way. 👊” responses were What slow and can't hit a target? Great plan. 😑💔💙 Insipid. No hardness. No accountability. No determination. No toughness. Who’s our inside mids? Only Jack. He can’t do it all himself. No more JJ Harmes Gus. BIG BIG end of season review is needed.💔💙 With another weak as p!ss performance? Pathetic end Certainly delivered on the 2024 Melbourne way!! That was as disappointing effort as you could imagine💔💔💔💔💔

Positives. Gawn. Salem. Tmcd. Chandler. Langdon. All could walk off proudly. Negatives. Missed tackles. Turnovers. Fumbles. Slip overs. No game plan. Umpiring. If I was discussing with Goody 1. Turnovers. Pies beat us in every stat … except for turnovers. Our skills were horrible. And these were not risky kicks to create. Basic kicking errors. 2. Zone defence. Guard grass. What !! Why !! Pies cut us up each time with run and skill. Man up. They destroyed us with uncontested footy. Kick mark kick mark run and overlap. It’s been year after year. 3. Tag N Daicos. It worked previously. But we let him run right from the start. 10 possessions by 20 minutes in first qtr. pies were then 4 goals up. Poor coaching. 4. tell Kozzzy never to bump again. It’s too risky !! there’s a lot more that’s enough for this weeks game

YEAR PLAYER 2001 Adem Yze 2002 Adem Yze 2003 Clint Bizzell 2004 Jeff White 2005 Travis Johnstone 2006 Cameron Bruce 2007 Nathan Jones 2008 Brad Green 2009 Aaron Davey 2010 James Frawley 2011 Jack Trengove 2012 Nathan Jones 2013 Nathan Jones 2014 Nathan Jones 2015 Jack Viney 2016 Max Gawn 2017 Clayton Oliver 2018 Clayton Oliver 2019 Max Gawn 2020 Christian Petracca 2021 Clayton Oliver 2022 Clayton Oliver 2023 Christian Petracca 2024 Max Gawn Nathan Jones x4 Clayton Oliver x 4 Max Gawn x 3 There is only 3 players have won the past 9 awards. Gawn, Oliver & Petracca.

thanks @Demonland Congratulations to Max Gawn on taking out the 2024 Demonland Player of the Year. It is his 3rd time winning this prestigious award. PLAYER VOTES 1 Max Gawn 220 2 Jack Viney 123 3 Trent Rivers 112 4 Steven May 104 5 Christian Petracca 97 6 Alex Neal-Bullen 93 7 Kysaiah Pickett 81 8 Ed Langdon 79 9 Clayton Oliver 65 10 Christian Salem 60 11 Jacob van Rooyen 58 12 Tom McDonald 55 13 Judd McVee 50 14 Jake Lever 43 15 Bayley Fritsch 32 16 Kade Chandler 30 =17 Tom Sparrow 25 =17 Caleb Windsor 25 19 Daniel Turner 22 20 Harry Petty 20 21 Jake Bowey 17 22 Blake Howes 15 23 Jack Billings 13 24 Adam Tomlinson 9 =25 Jake Melksham 2 =25 Andy Moniz-Wakefield 2

Different game ?? Laurie runs free and kicks without pressure… straight to the Pies player right in front of him. No forward error. Laurie kicked it straight to the Pies player. Horrendous turnover.

Pies definitely have us on a leash. We are their (self censored as you know the word) Goodwin record v Pies. Win 3 Loss 10 (Dees lost 6 of last 7) He seems incapable of understanding the Pies strengths. it’s their run and pace. Our zone defence is unpicked each year by run and skills. They have a rubber band backline with Crisp and Quaynor rebounding to Pendlebury / Daicos/ Sidebottom/Degoey to small forwards Elliott/Hill/mccreery. Rinse and repeat cycle. the record is 2024R24 Dees 8.9 57 Pies 15.13 103 Pies by 46 2024R13 KB Pies 14.5 89 Dees 6.15 51 Pies by 38 2023QF Pies 9.6 60 Dees 7.11 53 Pies by 7 2023R13 QB Dees 8.18 66 Pies 9.8 62 Dees by 4 2022R21 Dees 13.11 89 Pies 15.6 96 Pies by 7 2022R13 QB Pies 12.10 82 Dees 8.8.56 Pies by 26 2021R13 QB Dees 9.9 63 Pies 11.14 80 Pies by 17 2020R12 QB Dees 16.4 100 Pies 6.8 44 at the Gabba Dees by 56 2019R21 Dees 7.11.53 Pies 10.10 70 Pies by 17 2019R12 QB Pies 15.8 98 Dees 7.15.57 Pies by 41 2018R12 QB Dees 14.7.91 Pies 20.13 133 Pies by 42 2017R23 Pies 14.15 99 Dees 12.11 83 Pies by 16 2017R12 Dees 15.14 104 Pies 15.10 100 Dees by 4 Watts kicks match winner !! Goodwin takes over as MFC senior coach 2016R12 QB Dees 16.8 104 Pies 8.10 58 Dees by 46 2016R4 Pies 9.13 67 Dees 16.6 102 Dees by 35

Yes agree likely Crows will offer back the “2nd round pick tied to MFC”. Likely pick 25-26. That’s probably ok if we could get Harrison Oliver with that pick.

summary by Steve23magpie on X “another soft heartless effort by melbourne” couldn’t argue with that

@Whispering_Jack👏👏👏 Or more concisely … Dees bring a knife to a gun fight !! Outsmarted and Outclassed and Outplayed

Pick 5 or pick 6 doesn’t matter. Either is fine. We need to hold the pick and not trade. Any of Lalor, Langford or Lindsay would be great additions.

Dees need to focus on skills and pace through the midfield. I don’t think that Riv and McVee are the answer. They are excellent across our defence and should stay there. You don’t rob your strengths to try to fix other gaps. two steps 1. Recruit one mature player ready to go in the midfield. Peatling for example would be an excellent addition. 2. use this year 2024 draft to see at least three quality midfielders… this years draft is super strong

Fritsch needs the tough conversation yes he’s a very good goalscorer but it’s a team game and he has a LACK OF SECOND EFFORTS LACK OF ANY TACKLING LACK OF DEFENSIVE PRESSURE He looks lazy at times !!!!

APPEAL MOORE GOES TO GROUND AT LAST MINUTE KOZZZZY HAD NO HUMANLY POSSIBLE REACTION TIME GET THE BIOMECHANICS EXPERT MRO MICHAEL CHRISTIAN IS EX COLLINGWOOD SO CLEARLY BIASED FIGHT THIS

Just to confirm … Dees were completely outclassed all night. It could have been 9 goals to 1 goal at quarter time. Bobby Hill was just toying with us. It’s not the scoreboard but the dysfunctional strategy and skills were beyond bad. Turnovers were simple mistakes. They broke tackles. We could break a tackle. Viney shutdown by Sidebottom. Daicos brothers had a birthday party. Only Gawn really stoodout as a true Demon warrior all night.

6 GAWN. huge heart. Tried all night. Beat Cameron convincingly. daylight 5 Tmcd. Yes had a good night. Beat Daicos 1-1. Two brain fades. Deliberate out of bounds. Bad decision to mark instead of punch v HoskinElloitt cost us a goal. Otherwise tried and tried and kicked well 4 Chandler. Nice goal. Good tackles and put his head over the footy 3 Salem. Again strong contribution. Intercepted several Pies attacks. Generally good disposal except for 2 howler turnovers that cost goals struggling now 2 Langdon. Ed kept running and got better with more involvement 1 Turner. He shows spirit. Lovely goal apologies to Kozzzzy ( good goals but it was a nearly night … nearly got away from quaynor, hit the post from 7 metres out, nearly got through congestion, nearly nearly ) Riv in 100th was serviceable as was Billings. Spuds awards to Fritsch & JVR

It’s not the drafting. He had skills and evasive qualities in his under 18s year and fair call by JT. Tough draft year 2020 due to limited games. It’s his extension that was the issue. Showed zero. He looks to have lost pace. Doesn’t work hard defensively to get back. Kicking is okay but not anywhere near a strength. Lacks the tools at AFL level Footnote …His turnover last night was horrible … when running free with 3 free demons players , he kicked it straight to Pies player (they went back up the field to kick a goal) !!

Goodwin coaching career 2017 9th 12-10 miss finals by 0.5% 2018 5th 14-8 Finals W W L (prelim) 👏 2019 17th 5-17 ❌❌ 2020 9th 9-8 2021 1st 17-4-1 Finals W W W Premiership 🏆👏👏 2022 2nd 16-6 Finals L L 2023 4th 16-6 Finals L L 2024 tbc 11-12 ❌

Crows are laughing. McAdam is now a pick 23-24 in this draft. He’s a lazy footballer. Cannot kick 35 metres. Mercurial yes. But two or three efforts a match is lazy!!!

Message for JT. We need a type of player. Look for more competitive players. Hard nuts. Skilled footballers yes. Ones who will defend their teammates. Ones with spirit. They might now all be the elite youngster but you cannot build the spirit in that hard grit. Thoughts? @Whispering_Jack @layzie. @dazzledavey36 Here is some within the 2024 list Sam Lalor Tom Gross Cooper Hynes Harrison Oliver Zak Johnson Kade Herbert Nat Sulzberger Youngsters who could stand up when the heat comes !!! Not physically pushed aside.

1 Tigers. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh 2.*Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son. 3. Roos. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 4 Eagles. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh 5. Crows. Sid Draper - Sth Adel 6. Saints. Josh Smillie - Eastern 7. * Suns match bid Leonardo Lombard 8. Dees … either of Harvey Langford - Dandenong⭐️ Sam Lalor- GWV⭐️ Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland⭐

Not mid paced … slow slow slow. He’s got no size either.

3 votes N Daicos was clearly clearly best on ground runs runs runs uses the footy to perfection 80% disposal efficiency 40 possessions one grab player no fumbles does not slip over uses footy to advantage of next player … not to their feet … not behind them DOESNT EVEN TRY TO KICK WITH HIS OPPOSITE FOOT EVER massive score involvement massive metres gained accelerate into space zero defensive game but who cares !!!! I hate the pies I hate the pies but Nick Daicos plays the game with such composure and smarts. our mids could learn 10 things from this kid

Watched Laurie v GC suns VFL - beaten by suns VFL Fiorini Berry - slow. slow. slow amazed he got promoted Watched Laurie v Pies tonight Came on as sub at half time - was slow around the ground - had free possession and kicked on left foot - lazy - not running back to pickup pies players - guard grass - tackles ok But he hadn’t shown anything this year Gifted this extension He was recruited as an evasive small forward but has actually lost pace since his junior days

Good. We get some compo !!!

Apart from Viney there’s no flag bearers it would be embarrassing