spirit of norm smith

Only consider Cruize Gartlett as a delisted player through PSD or a very very late 70+ draft pick.

Farren Ray for a pick around 35-45 is the mark. Maybe a swap of picks and free agent compo picks. He has more potential at MFC than StKFC, and he knows it.

Free agent signing - Shannon Byrnes #26 father son selection : Jack Viney ... what a sensation MFC give picks #3 & 13 to GWS GWS give MD2 Jesse Hogan & pick 20 & Dom Barry Rumours & negotiations: OUT - Brent Moloney - free agent to the Lions <pending medical> Jared Rivers - free agent to the Cats. GFC offer 3 yrs @$350k. JR has toured Cattery ... Jordie Gysberts - Cats may offer 2nd round pick #35 approx in exchange. Gone quiet. Stef Martin - has been put on the market despite having 1 yr on contract left. Only whisper is Saints may be keen in exchange for 3rd round pick #52 approx in exchange. IN- Chris Dawes from pies - has to decide b/w Pies and 3 suitors Blues, Dogs & Dees. Cam Pedersen from kangas - reports say MFC still very keen. Farren Ray from saints - under contract and Saints say he is wanted. Mgr and player are looking at ops elsewhere. MFC to pursue IMO. Ben Warren from kangas - question asked. I hope its a full stop as he is VFL quality only. Matt Thomas from Power - discussion raised only Scott Gumbleton from bombers - Mark Neeld has a 30 minute coffee with Gumbleton. Mail has it Bombers offer is 1 yr, Freo offer is 3 yrs. I hope we pass on the injury proned, inaccurately kicking fwd.

Yes I like it. MFC give Gysberts and pick 45 = Port give Jacobs and pick 66.

On AFL Trade radio today, they (Barrett & Wallace) questioned Neeld's approach to Gumbleton. They said: 1. it seems that MFC have missed the key quality expereinced players they thought they may attract. 2. Gumbleton was not on their radar and now is. Appears to be a scattergun approach to "at least get something" 3. Gumbleton and Clark are too similar, and have no ground ability . Too similar big/ruck style fwds. I tend to agree. However 30 mins for a coffee to check the air is not a big investment given Neeld was there to meet Hogan and his family. Gumbleton is injury proned and a big NO from me. No way. Move on. Pass. His kicking is poor.

That's cool. It wasn't your opinion, I can tell you love the club and know your stuff. It's that you mentioned Magner, Couch, Bail, Nicho as the players I have covered in the same inside mid category as the Hawks and Swans mids. And I had not. The right facts and opinion is fine. Oh and sorry Wines ticks another box. No injury clouds over him. Make that 8 plus points.

thanks team. I think from all the reports that Oliver Wines ticks our requirements. rather than the negative posts, lets get positive and we how we can get a "hardest team to play approach". Physically ready Skilled Wins the footy...often Goalkicker Leadership Character Victorian (no go home factor) Jack Viney highly rates Easy call

Keep pickls 4 and 20 for quality mids. Youth to build on other trades.

yes Mitch Brown (Cats) for Gysberts is a win win for both clubs. Easy call to make. Surprised it has not been considered.

NO. Injury Prone dud. Waste of time & money. Mark Neeld please dont touch him. WHY ??????????????????????? Gubleton gets injured getting out of bed. He is a terrible kick. Essendon offer of 1-yr is a good one for his injury riddled past. Let Freo take him and move on. Mark Neeld - "Quality youth and experience (preferable from a winning culture)". Gumbleton is NEITHER.

I think we are waiting for the Rivers decision, and then our ultimate FA Compo.. North will want a pick around 30-35 for Pedersen, but they are dreaming. I think he is a good 2nd/3rd fwd or backup option. Is behind Tarrant,Hansen,,Petrie. But if Hansen goes, then North may say he is "Needed" MFC will consider 3rd round offer around 45-55. IMO we have to wait until we know what's happening with Mrrin, Gysberts, FA compo to see what we will offer.

Yes if Morton+ pick 75+pick 95 for Meredith & Swans pick 66, which we would ontrade elsewhere. OMG I have caught trade madness.

Watch this footage of Matt Thomas agst the Blues. It shows his attitude. Get the footy. 2nd effort. 3rd effort. How many MFC players showed that level of effort in 2012 (count on one hand)

Agree , if we keep pick 20, and Dean Towers is available... Shout him OUT.

agreed. Wines is a smart footballer. Competitive. Disposal efficiency is high. Gets the footy ... alot.

Saying that you can't have too many 'inside' mids is a very confusing and naive comment. Stevethemanjordan ... you have been smoking a substance or need NEW glasses. My assessment of players like the mids from hawks and swans was around players like Jones, Viney, Wines, Mckenzie (and Trengrove,Grimes & Sylvia). You will find that Mckenzie stats around disposals are effective. However his focus is a shutdown role. It did not mention... Magner, Couch, Nicho, Moloney & Bail ... all of whom you introduced. Get your assessment right before the negative jibes. Apology accepted. Thanks. Go the nighty Dees

Agreed on this assessment. You have to be able to get the footy. Wines gets the footy ... often !!.

this is the 18 medium size midfielders invited to the AFL draft combine (of the 80+ invited)

agree ... fingers crossed

Agree. If the Pies keep 17 & 18, they are likely to grab Nick Graham. The Pies do also believe they are contenders and Dean Towers will be on their radar or another fwd option like Tim Membrey (he has the tats they like at Vic Pk)

1st round #3 to GWS (for MD2 Jesse Hogan & pick 20 & Dom Barry) #4 (available)... Wines, Toumpas, O'Rourke #13 to GWS (for MD2 Jesse Hogan & pick 20 & Dom Barry) #20 (now available) ... Towers, Graham, Atkins, Lowrie 2nd round #26 father son selection : Jack Viney ... what a sensation 3rd round #46 (available) ... Cam Pedersen or Matt Thomas trades. Draftees likely - Tim Broomhead (SA), Ben Kearns (Gippsland), Leigh Osborne (VFL) 4th round #66 (available) ... by this stage we should have a full quota or keep one for PSD#3. If we use, likely Josh Scott (Gippsland) or Josh Thurlow (Tassie) may appeal. 5th round #84 (available) ... unlikely we will have this pick available as should get free agent comps/trade deals. Use MFC last pick of course to upgrade Daniel Nicholson. < draft picks are approx due to compensation deals apicks for free agent deals yet to be nominated by AFL) On the table: OUT - Brent Moloney - free agent to the Lions, Jared Rivers - free agent to the Cats (I hope he stays), Jordie Gysberts - Cats may offer 2nd round pick #35 approx in exchange, Stef Martin - Saints may be keen in exchange for 3rd round pick #52 approx in exchange. IN - Shannon Byrnes (Free agent from the Cats ... Signed), and rumours around Chris Dawes from pies (for pick 20 ... hmmm yes ok but I think we need more midfield class), Cam Pedersen from kangas (I yes from me), Farren Ray from saints (hmmm a yes), Ben Warren from kangas (oh no), Matt Thomas from Power (hmmm no prisoners taken is his style - I like it)

Memo to MFC Surely Dean Towers now at pick 20. He showed he is too good for VFL. Played and beat many AFL listed players in VFL. At 22yo, mature, runs and carries. Lock it in. Mark Neeld must have his mobile number on speed dial.

agree. GWS get: 1. extra $$$ 1mil, plus Sydney living allowance $900,000 to salary cap ... $2mil extra a year. 2. List size of 44 plus 9 rookies. 3. NT zone for 4 years. 5. Pre listed AFL players from VFL, SANFL, WAFL to pick up or trade 6. 2 years of mini-draft trades 7. pick up 10 players in 17yo age bracket from 2011 8. 9 of the top 15 in 2011 draft (and they topped up an extra 2). 9. No AFL investigation on signing players under contract (ie Tom Scully). Do we need to say anything further.

Pick 20 options are: 1- trade to Pies for Chris Dawes 2- pick up a good running mid ... like Atkins, Lowrie , Graham or mature 22yo like Dean Towers (my preference)

Agree. Neeld wants players to make us "The Hardest Team to play". This is not Farren Ray. This is Matt Thomas types. add Viney, Wines, Thomas to ... Mckenzie, Jones, Magner ... we are not taking backward steps !!!!!!!!!!!!!!