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In the words of Gerard Whateley Who is the 'Reasonable Player' the Tribunal has invented – the all-knowing, all-seeing personification of perfection from a utopian world.

Mick McGuane Our great game is in serious trouble. May gets 3 weeks at the tribunal. Absolute [censored] decision. Melbourne surely appeals to bring some sanity back to our great game. In time we will see 2 players approaching a loose ball, both hesitate, look at each other and not go at it. My response … Mick 👏👏 May had eyes on the footy. He was going to win the footy. He keeps his line. The bouncing ball pops up. In a nano second , he’s late. A nano second late. He contacts Evans. No bump. No intent. Contact …yes. Careless … No.

Curtis - a tackle - 3 weeks.🤬🤬 Steven May - going for the ball and his eyes on the ball and does not move from the line and arrives a “nano second late” as the bouncing ball pops up - 3 weeks.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Tristan Xerri - swinging round arm , nothing near the ball and knocks a bloke out cold - 3 weeks. Should have been 6 weeks 🤬 Ben King on Whitfield - nothing to see here 🤬 Alex Pearce - 3 weeks then OVERTURNED to nil after tribunal rules … "Pearce's attempt to mark was entirely realistic," Gleeson said."If not for Byrne-Jones entering the contest from the opposite direction, he would likely have taken the mark."We do not find that this was rough conduct."🤬🤬 https://www.afl.com.au/news/1331214/the-verdict-is-in-fremantle-dockers-skipper-alex-pearce-learns-his-fate-at-tribunal/amp Tom Lynch - attempting to punch a bloke - 5 weeks Jack Graham - homophobic slur - 4 weeks. Darcy Moore - drops knees into Treacys back a good 3 seconds after marking contest, nothing to see here 🤬

THIS IS WHY WE ARE ANGRY REALLY REALLY ANGRY GLEESON SAYS MAY HAD ALOT OF TIME TO WORK OUT OPTIONS THAT IS NOT THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND FOOTY SUPPORTERS VIEW IT WAS A NANO SECOND but wait let’s read Gleeson on Maynard AFL tribunal news 2023: Brayden Maynard cleared, full reasoning behind not guilty verdict revealed, Jeff Gleeson https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/afl-tribunal-news-2023-brayden-maynard-cleared-full-reasoning-behind-not-guilty-verdict-revealed-jeff-gleeson/news-story/769da7a37ca089ae1f6287605abfc24f @Ghostwriter @binman @Demonland @Redleg @beelzebub @picket fence @dazzledavey36 @Whispering_Jack Gleeson on Maynard It is asking a lot of a player to decide in a fraction of a second which various ways to land, a high speed collision, and which of those ways of landing might result in which type of reportable offence. We find that Mr. Maynard was not careless in either his decision to smother or the way in which his body formed. This brings us to the rough conduct (high bumps) provision. The first question here is whether Maynard caused forceful contact to Brayshaw’s head or neck in the bumping of an opponent. The AFL contends that Maynard chose to bump. Ihle on behalf of Maynard says the evidence demonstrates he had no time to make such a decision and that Maynard did no more than brace for contact. We are clearly satisfied Maynard did not engage in the act of bumping Brayshaw. It is not suggested by the AFL and nor could it be sensibly suggested that Maynard made a decision to bump his opponent at the moment of jumping in the air to smother. At that point in time, Maynard was clearly making a decision to smother. In order for it to be concluded that he engaged in the act of bumping. It would be necessary to find that he formed that intention when in midair at approximately at the apex of his leap. We accept the evidence of Professor Cole as being consistent with a common sense viewing of the video evidence. Maynard had no time to form that intention. The charge is dismissed.

Guilty. Terrible decision. What did he do wrong? He thinks he is going to win the ball. His eyes are on the ball. He keeps his line. It was a nano second. 0.025/second reaction time. The ball pops up. There was no bump. It was contact. The tribunal is wrong. It was not careless. Gleeson clearly has an agenda. MELBOURNE MUST APPEAL. Smaller clubs gets shafted by the AFL. THATS THE STORY

AFL website May's case was sent directly to the Tribunal on Wednesday night, with the rough conduct charge graded as careless, severe impact and high contact. Tribunal counsel Andrew Woods pushed for a three-match ban to be imposed, declaring May should have slowed down or changed direction to either avoid or lessen the collision. The premiership defender had pleaded not guilty, with his lawyer Adrian Anderson arguing his client's actions weren't unreasonable. May and Evans clashed at speed while attacking a loose ball in the Blues' eight-point win at the MCG on Saturday night. Given the rolling ball popped up during its final bounce, Evans arrived a fraction of a second earlier than his opponent, with a charging May making contact after continuing his trajectory. During his evidence, he reiterated the fact he thought he would arrive at the bouncing ball first. "I definitely thought it was my ball given how the previous bounces reacted," May said. "Then it took an unusual bounce given the conditions. It actually bounced up and towards Evans, which I didn't anticipate." May's hands were still in front of him in a collect-the-ball type pose when his shoulder made contact with Evans' head. "I thought it was going to be in my hands. I just can't believe I didn't take possession," May said. "I thought I did everything right. I was shocked." In his findings, Tribunal chair Jeff Gleeson said the evidence from the biomechanics expert showed May had 0.56 seconds from the ball's final bounce until the moment of the collision, and that he would have needed at least 0.2 to 0.25 seconds to react. "We find, however, that May could and should have reacted before the moment of the last bounce of the ball," Gleeson said. "Even if, contrary to our view, May could and should not have reacted until the final bounce of the ball, we find that he had sufficient time to position his body so that he was no longer attempting to gather the ball. "It's important to note in this regard that May had a relatively long period of time to sum up the key features of the contest. "May ran a sufficient distance and had sufficient time with an unimpeded view of what was before him to determine what he could and should do in the likely event he did not reach the ball first or at the same time." ———————————————- He expected to win the football. It pops up and he is a nano second too late and has a nano second to brace for impact. His eyes are always on the ball. He did not bump. He was not careless. It was accidental. The Tribunal is WRONG. @Demonland @binman @george_on_the_outer WE MUST APPEAL THIS THEIR CHARGE WAS CARELESS , IT WAS NOT CARELESS, IT WAS CONTACT IT WAS A REASONABLE ACT TO EXPECT TO WIN THE FOOTBALL HE KEEPS HIS EYES ON THE FOOTBALL HE DID NOT BUMP HE KEEPS HIS LINE THE FOOTBALL POPS UP AT THE LAST NANO SECOND WE MUST APPEAL THIS

An accident is three weeks but Moore deliberately dropping your knees into someone is not even reviewed??? And Knocking out a player with a swinging arm is also just 3 weeks Madness Explain that to me @AFL is losing the fans

Absolutely Go Riv It’s madness He was going for the ball His eyes are on the ball He has 0.0005 second reaction time when the ball pops up

Agree. Gleeson is a biased 35 year Magpies member.

Adrian's nine reasons™ 1 - May contesting the ball 2 - Legitimately expected to get to the ball first. Has his hands out, expecting he can get to the ball first 3 - Both travelling at pace, reasonable for both to do so 4 - Unexpected bounce of the ball on its fourth bounce 5 - By the time he realises Evans is there, it’s too late to slow or change momentum significantly 6 - Doesn’t move off line 7 - Doesn’t tuck elbow in or rotate, doesn’t jump off ground. 8 - Attempts to slow at the end, even though it’s too late. 9 - May significantly taller than Evans

Tribunal chair Jeffrey Gleeson - 35 years a Collingwood member AFL IS A JOKE MRO IS A JOKE TRIBUNAL IS A JOKE

Steven May has been given a three-match ban by the Tribunal after a 3+ hour case. They said that he had sufficient time to slow himself in the contest and didn’t do so Comments: Now it’s pull out of the contest and let the opposition get an easy goal No sane person that has ever played the game could come to that conclusion. Game is forever broken now. How in the world could he slow down when it was the last bounce up that did him? Which was less than 0.5 of a second to stop That is the worst decision, will change the game and no longer will players be able to make tackles at all. Games dead and dusted "sufficient time" is the dumbest s**t they could say tbh May has been absolutely thrown to the wolves here. What Pearce done was 10x worse. Left the ground, put his arm out. The AFL is a corrupt pack of dogs - they pick and choose who they suspend. So they wanted him to squib it. They agreed it wasn't a bump so he's been reported and outed for 3 weeks for not being a squib. The most amateurish professional sporting organisation in the sporting world. How the hell did he “have sufficient time” - & I’m not even a demons supporter. Appeal it Melbourne and set the standard. Completely fine to knee someone in the back after a mark (intentionally) and push a player into the bench while outside the field of play. That’s wrong and he must go to the appeals board. Blatant and egregious error. can’t accept this one, he’s gone the ball, got their first and get 3 weeks because of the accidental contact. Play a contact sport but rub anyone out based on outcome, soft. It’s a 0.0005 second to make the decision!!! he thinks he will get there first but the ball pops up and he gets there 0.0005 second too late

Poll WHAT RESULT DO YOU EXPECT? Three-match ban26.7% Four-match ban16.7% Charge thrown out54.1% Other2.5% 980 votes

Anderson: May's attempt to win the ball was entirely realistic. Anderson says the Dees "fundamentally disagree" with the idea it was clear Evans was going to get there first from a few steps out.

Anderson says Jackson Archer had "significantly more time" to respond in his incident than May did.

Jeffrey Gleeson a 30-year magpies member. I question his judgement He got Maynard off He got Maxwell off

Anderson is now referencing Alex Pearce's successful Tribunal hearing. Gleeson notes in that case they found Pearce acted late to try and minimise impact, which could he says be different in this matter. That’s not true. Pearce keeps his arm straight and that saved him. He still made strong contact, not minimal!!! By the way, Gleeson is a magpies supporter

Adrian's nine reasons™ 1 - May contesting the ball 2 - Legitimately expected to get to the ball first. Has his hands out, expecting he can get to the ball first 3 - Both travelling at pace, reasonable for both to do so 4 - Unexpected bounce of the ball on its fourth bounce 5 - By the time he realises Evans is there, it’s too late to slow or change momentum significantly 6 - Doesn’t move off line 7 - Doesn’t tuck elbow in or rotate, doesn’t jump off ground. 8 - Attempts to slow at the end, even though it’s too late. 9 - May significantly taller than Evans

Listening earlier to Adrian Anderson … he is a clown. Why do we use him ?

Steven May did just about everything right when he collected Francis Evans on the weekend – and yet he's still off to the tribunal. It’s a disgrace. The ball pops up and May is already committed. He thought he could get to the contest and likely should have if the ball runs on In 0.0005 second he braces !! That’s not Careless. That’s incidental or better described as Accidental!!! He keeps his eye on the ball !!

Melbourne will use the Alex Pearce tribunal case tomorrow and argue it is even more relevant because the ball was in the air when Pearce contested. For Steven May, who will testify, it was a slippery bouncing Sherrin that he believed was going to get to him before Francis Evans. Tribunal boss Jeff Gleeson said after he let Pearce off that not every concussion is caused by careless contact. Melbourne believes it has a compelling case and if May's suspension is upheld it will lead to total confusion in ground-ball incidents when two players are hitting a contest at the same time

He did look like a player. 😭Blues will add a good one to their list.

Ok Twomey is probably the best of the bunch … but it’s a very low bar. They all throw random darts and some hit but many miss. The gutter starts at the bottom with the deep-mud-crawler Sam the grub McClure.

From the bits and pieces seen in the championships and Coates League so far … and with some players having reduced games due to injury Roughly 19 of the top 50 youngsters are already likely to be pre nominated by a club under the Academies or father son selections 1st rounders likely 1,Cooper Duff-Tytler 2 Zeke Uwland(** academy GCS) 3.Dyson Sharp. 4.Willem Duursma 5.Max King (**academy Swans) 6.Dylan Patterson(** academy GCS) 7.Josh Lindsay 8.Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves 9.Daniel Annable(** academy Bris) 10 Sam Grlj 11 Oliver Greeves 12 Archie Ludowyke 13 Beau Addinsall(** academy GCS) 14 Mitch Marsh Riley Onley Fred Rodriguez 17. Louis Emmett Sam Cumming Jacob Farrow Harry Dean (Carlton f/son) Zac McCarthy Noah Chamberlain(**academy Sydney) Lachlan Carmichael(** academy Sydney) Rory Wright Cody Curtin Ryder Corrigan (**academy Giants) Xavier Taylor 2nd round 28-50 Jack Dalton Harley Barker Koby Coulson (*academy Suns) Felix Kneipp Lachlan Dovaston Aiden Schubert Adam Sweid (*Ess NGA) Thomas McGuane(*Coll FS) Jevan Phillipou Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier Liam Hetherton (*academy Giants) Thomas Burton Matthew LeRay Tairon Ah-Mu Jesse Mellor (*Geel NGA) Harrison Bridge (*Lions academy) Kalani White(** Melb Father son 🤞… or academy GCS) Xavier Bamert Louis Kellaway(*Rich Father son Jai Murray (*academy GCS) Noah Roberts-Thompson Jack Ison (*Carlton NGA) Brodie Atkins 50+ and rookie hopefuls Blake Kelly Jett Dahlitz Taj Murray Wes Walley(*WCE NGA) Hunter Wright Jobe Scapin Toby Simmema (*Dees NGA) Callum Smith Kye Fincher (*Saints NGA) Jasper Russell Sam Lewis Aaron Sharkie Tom Ryan Sam Niklaus Arki Butler Mitch Moate Sam Allen Harry Tatterson. Ben Rongdit (**Cats NGA) Andrew Barker

I think if he did decide to go, I think Fremantle would be the favoured club right here, right now." - Cal Twomey on Judd McVee's future Twomey just aims and fires arrows !! What a lot of hot air most of the time 🤮