Diamond_Jim

come on... he's a fourth rounder have a look at the Scully deal if you want a baseline

KK is pick 50 plus so please don't include him in the trade talk. Like Kent he's a simple peripheral trade Might make some feel better but it's not a factor

ah... there's often a catch wonder who's paying the salary?

the Kelly case worries me a little in that it could be an instance of a player going for the money. Sure there is the go home factor but there is no doubt that the WCE offer for 2019 will be more than his Cat's contract. I applaud players following the money as they have very limited careers but perhaps there has to be some limits. Now if Kelly came out and said any overs for 2019 would be donated to an indigenous charity then my skepticism would be abated somewhat.

well argued Hemingway but personal services contracts have rarely been enforced in any industry as no one wants a disgruntled employee. What is done is that you have them stand out of the industry for 6-12 months but even that is fraught with difficulties. You could have an AFL imposed condition that you must stand out for half a season. Any longer and it would almost certainly get struck down as unenforceable. Even half a season might be too long. Of course the AFL likes the movement of players.. it's the clubs who hate it.

must say I cannot see what good three draft picks under 10 will do for the Suns. They need solid senior players. They'll be lucky to hold two of those 6 top 30 picks beyond 3 years. Pity we can't talk Hogan into going north May and a top ten draft pick would be a breeze.

so what happened to the 8 x $1M that Hogan was reportedly asking for last night.

May is on a reported $900k so not a great difference

would MFC offer 8 x $1m? Not sure I would

8 x $1M actually sounds a decent deal for Freo. I can understand the thinking by Hogan. he's going back to a town where he cannot change clubs easily and obviously going home is big. If I was his manager I would have been asking 4 x $1.1 with an extra 100k in years 3 and 4. As others have said with the expected increment in salary payments he will be around their 5th top paid player in four years. Now about the navicular?? And of course salary has nothing to do with trade value save that with high salaries go high trade picks. This sounds like amateur hour all round... Managers are paid to do these deals months if not years in advance.

Ah.. but could it be the AFL wanting young Belly to play the role of Black Hat Bart in its Wednesday evening drama.

tell me it can't be true... my core beliefs are being questioned here

now that was a movie,,, they used to play the original version as the midday movie every Cup day

had forgotten that Oprah co starred in that movie. It was mainly Whoopi who is remembered for her role and nomination as best actress. Oprah did star in Beloved. No biscuits as I recall in either movie.

GCS are in serious trouble most managers of the top 8 draftees would have been having a word with GCS re the difficulties their charges would face if moving to the club. The comments by the Port list manager are to be expected. What is the worst the AFL will do... "you should not have said it" and we all move on. GCS need to get in senior players that they can keep and build from there. They really are a serious basket case

Cannot believe how the AFL has managed to extend its product into the October/November period. Other sports cannot get any media coverage. Brilliant startegy even if I hate it. Listening to an Age journo speaking on the ABC this morning their trade pieces get bigger clicks than those on the finals simply because every follower is interested in the trades.

Agree it's a bargain but remember that GWS are agreeing to it. While Scully is not entitled to say I will only go to Hawthorn he is entitled to reject being traded to a named club. Same as what Hogan has done to us with Freo. Obviously the Giants modelled their salary cap on a flag in 2017 and 2018. Understandable if you think about it. Now they have to do something drastic. Heard on the radio yesterday that Collingwood might be a chance for Patton. If so makes the decision to trade Lobb even more puzzling.

must say that is my concern... I'm big for trading Hogan for value but I don't see equivalent value in May and change. The only way you can justify it is to say that Hogan going forward is not as important to us as he was perceived going into the 2018 season. At the start of the 2018 season I firmly believed that Hogan at CHF had the ability a la Jack Riewoldt to win us a flag.

now that was a serious up market biscuit Did you live by the river?

ah... we are now moving into the realm of the known unknowns or is it one of those things that we don't know that we don't know only three days to go

This thread has brought back memories of the arnotts family all sorts except that the tic tocs were always gone by the time I got there. Could this be the cause of my extreme MFCSS?

We really have been softened up by Freo Honestly ... how many people six weeks ago would have agreed that trading Hogan for May plus steak knives was a good deal.

was it that long

Would that be the Defoe of Robinson Crusoe fame?

Interesting that the equivalent race in the US is the Pegaus worth A$15M at A$1.25M a slot. In 2018 there were 4 unsold slots. We definitely are a nation of gamblers ?