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Marlin picket is going to be a sensation I reckon. Wish we’d had the guts to go there... but I hope we go there w Harley.

If we deserved one so do they as they’re in worse shape than we were. all their stars leave... and will continue to. the problem being that I I think the afl need to accept that this project is a failure and they won’t. What they really need is to start again, get gifted about 8 afl B+ players from top 8 clubs as well as extra draft picks. But no one would tolerate that. They’re rooted anyway so I hope they get pick 10.

I’d feel good about it if we had other better ideas to make money. Id like the Alice game to stay. Darwin was always a crap idea but watch the suns get a bye the week after straight up.

Yep.... truly horrible how fast that ended. Memories of the 88 gf...which was actually way worse. Mainly because I was there and stayed to the end. But even then we were in front half way through the first qtr. ie we at least turned up fr half of the 1st qtr. That was the official end fr me of the dream that started in 87. But as has been pointed out in other threads now we DID win 2 finals in 18. the lions bundied out in straight sets would be hard to bear.

U mean the game that but fr crap kicking fr goal , [censored] umpires and a freak Liam Ryan mark we would have won. We dominated them that day....so who cares what they said.

Horrible story. And yes yr right. The dees we’re crap against WC but at least they were there on time and sober! Small mercies.

“giving something to all the shareholders “ is often a terrible way to run a footy club. it all good in ideas but can also miss the heart of the place. i’m so glad it’s not us fr a change setting up to be this stupid. i’ll eat my words if it comes out that woosha drove this, but it’s not t vibe i’m getting.

Elliot easily on talent alone and a really dangerous player creating a new avenue to goals. But Frost as more likely to play every week . A big physical precense, improving, hyper speed, short or tall option. Elliot is an exciting talent and a great get if he stayed on the park . but I can see Him missing as much as he plays. I can’t help but think the only reason he would leave a team like the pies , a big club , smack bang in the premiership window, is if he was worried about his health and trying to make money while he could in this game. I’m presuming Burgess would be involved and if we get him this would be one of his first big calls. For mine, IF it is indeed a choice I’d stay with frost...the devil we know.

Because the hawks are a smart outfit.

Yes he does. I can understand for a young man how hard it can be to give up on the game. Give up on an elite talent you possess and all the dreams that go with that. But I do hope there’s some same heads in the club helping him make that choice. Game over as far as I can see and even then he well might be battling.

Exactly. Kennedy, Dawes and Neeld come to mind.

Sssshhhh...your spoiling all the fun.

After the Hogan episode on this site that statement almost feels like inviting trouble. Cursed words

That’s what the hawks thought about Scully ... and the doggies thought about Boyd. Not.

Talk about yesterday’s hero. Sheesh. He kicks what we thought was the sealer early in the last qtr in the final against the cats last year and was one of our most loved. Jones was never a real A grader but we depended on him heavily in the worst years I’ve ever had as a supporter and one of the truly dark eras of this club. He was no flower but he was a real heart and soul player and one of the very few that was widely respected in and out of the club. Yes he needs to step down or be stepped down from the captaincy.(as I think viney does as well) but he deserves our full respect.

Unless he wants out it’s a definite no. And even if he does I’d try to hold him. Hes one of the only players this year that was consistent and improving.

A little tough SWYL. It’s the only chance they get all year and I’d imagine a big % of players do the same. Plus getting away from the club and football is probably a necessity after the year they had. As long as they’re doing the work while away and come back in shape and sharp who cares?

I’m ok with it personally. Hed be a worthy fill in while weed fills out or if tmac is injured. Depends what he costs of course. He’s obviously not the future A 4 th rounder and the afc to cover some salary and I can’t see the harm in it.

In the cold light of day, I suspect You’re probably right Binman. except that he would have been ridiculed by all and sundry, told he was too stubborn/ stupid to change and risked further alienating a supporter base already baying for blood. He possibly might have risked his position as coach too.

It’s always [censored] me off too. Wilson was at her poisonous worst w us... on behalf of the AFL. Also utterly ignoring the blues the previous year.

It’s true. I’ve been opposed but I’m coming around to it. For the very reason STMJ expressed. This is a v critical off season for us. We need to generate hope fr the supporters and really meet the issues w our list. We can’t trade viney as he’s captain... but that would have been my preference. Brayshaw is a gun and mainly I’ve loved him but we just have an excess of his type and someone has got to go. Adding hill and Langdon would bring a lot of excitement and address our flaws.

The sad , unpalatable truth for us dees is that we’re an easy club to hit. The skinny kid w glasses in the school playground. I long fr the day, and I may never see it, we’re up there punching w the big boys . A club to be feared and respected.

I did wonder about that at the time. My zero knowledge hunch is that Jordie may have called out Jack on some things. The same kind of things that are being called out here. Anyway ...perhaps when theres sunnier skies over this club again and we've fnished top 3 and locked in the double chance you might share.

It has really been unbelievable this year hasnt it. I cant remember a game this year I wasnt shocked by this. Which is why I wondered about something deeper happening that you seem to allude to. Players dont suddenly forget how to kick 20 metre passes under little pressure...or kick accurately for goal. In the last few weeks, Melksham 3.5 and Fritsch 1.4. those two are perhaps our best kicks! It made me wonder is everything had just gotten v negative down there and the fear of making a mistake was creating undue tension.

that does not sound good patches. Clearly something was way off. Without revealing any details is this , in your opinion, something that can be repaired under Goodwin ? and/ or with Viney as Captain? Whenever clubs are losing like we were morale is always off but I knew this went deeper.