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Pick 1 (PP), pick 3, pick 4 (Frawley), pick 7 (Watts and our 2nd rounder to Carlton), pick 14 and 29(Toumpas and Trengove to Port), Pick 11 (Grimes and pick 29 to Richmond). Gives us picks 1 3 4 7 11 and 14.

We should have pick 1 (PP), 3 and 4 (Frawley) this year. Draft Petracca, Brayshaw and trade pick 4 and our 2nd rounder for another decent mid from the Bullies. Bring in Stretch, Jurrah and trade out some other plodders for 2nd round picks and we may be able to turn over half of our best 22.

His performance isnt a concern. His plateuing improvement is.

It doesnt mean we shouldnt expect improvement. At the moment none of our young players are showing much improvement.

Yesterdays game showed that the excuse of younger players tiring through a long season is bulldust. GWS youngsters did not look tired at all and have travelled much more then ours have.

I am not trying to say Tyson has been bad, what I am saying is we need a superstar who can influence games. Past few years we have kept targetting hardworking mids in Toumpas Viney Salem Tyson, Matt Jones, Magner, Couch, Cross, Vince ect Its about time we go for a player who goes in hard both inside and out and has the x factor to influence a game rather then just keep us in the game and our head above water. We had 2 chances to get this kid but instead we took a forward who hasnt played a game of AFL in 2 years and another hardworking midfielder to keep our head above water. Also if Viney and co rated Salem above Kelly then I have my concerns with the recruiting department..

Kelly carved us up yesterday, his touches were all influential and the impact he had on the game as a first yr player was huge. None of this "younger players tiring from a long year" excuse we seem to be hearing at the MFC.

In his defence I wouldnt say there is much difference between the scoring abilities of the MFC and an EPL team at the moment.Many EPL teams would regularily score more then 1 goal in 3 quarters

Tyson is good and tries hard but he will never have the x factor and ability to turn the tide of a game the way Kelly will. Salem struggles to get a touch. Has he had any games where he has reached double digit posessions?

We trade our pick 2 away for more hard working midfielders with mediocre disposal or ineffective running patterns. Damn Kelly looked good yesterday

We ll trade the pick away again like we did with the Dom Tyson for Kelly trade. Damn Kelly looked the goods yesterday.

Was Tim Broomhead taken with the traded pick? He had a good weekend kicking 3 for the Pies...

Was Broomhead the player Collingwood tookwith the Dawes pick? He kicked a lazy 3 this weekend.

Frawley 4 kicks. Only 8 touches for a full game. What a joke of a leader, he can [censored] off compensation or not.

Issue is players dont work hard enough offensivly whicheaves the ball carrier under pressure with no easy targets. That results in our bad disposal. Simple lack of players wanting other players to do the work offensively

You quoted the obvious so I thought I would. Looks like you failed to see the irony

I dont want to see Frawley wear the MFC jumper again. 4 kicks today wtf? His meant to be a leader. I want him gone, compensation or not. He is part of whats wrong with our club.

Well our VFL team lost today and it was 90% mfc players...

Can anyone summarize what Roos said in post match presser?

Frawley 4 pathetic kicks. His meant to be a leader of the team and Grimes got more touches in half a game. I couldnt give a [censored] if Frawley goes and we get nothing for him. At his current rate he will be lucky not to be delisted.

To all these people saying they are ripping up their membership. All I can say is pic or it didnt happen and your all talk.

Was only 2 non mfc players in first 18. Guess we now know that we would lose to a VFL team...

Roos will want blood from the players

I actually think that we didnt gain pick 2 but we have lost pick 4. No way Frawley compo will be band 1 with the way his playing. Will be lucky to get a second rounder.

They should ask Melbourne Victory for goal kicking practice