Undeeterred

Agreed. Carey will just calm him down I reckon, bring him back to earth a bit.

This, precisely. I've been wondering how long it would take for us to twig to the fact that these guys take absolutely no responsibility for team improvement, then say the team hasn't improved and I'm out of here. Jesse could pretty much single handedly ensure that we win 2-4 games more than we will if he stands around scratching himself in the forward line.

I can't be bothered trawling back through the threads, but I'm willing to bet that at least a few of the people in this thread who are heaping it on him would have taken him at 4 regardless.

What a cracker of a first post.

This is beginning to look like the story, if you ask me.

Number 10 is off the mark, though.

'Hard inherited'. Love it.

Best, most thoughtful, considered and insightful post Demonland has ever seen. And spot on the money.

Free kick not paid - Jones was all over Daniher's shoulder. But it did seem odd he was within 20 feet, yes.

Well yes, if they're not ready. On what basis is Weidemann playing reasonable football demanding the right to be 'given a chance to step up'. This whole topic is pure over reaction (not surprising given the OP).

Gosh you two are boring.

It was dreadful. We had a very typical day out when nobody led, old hands kicked it down the throat of the opposition and the coaching box made no creative changes which might have shaken things up a bit. There was nothing like stick Hogan on the ball to stop him whinging, or put Jones across half back to cut off easy ball in. It was just the typical Melbourne slow motion train crash.

This is the first time someone has actually said this, and you're absolutely right. We just have no vision as a club and are always five years behind everyone else.

Funnily enough, for all the doom and gloom we are still 9th and none of the teams below us have a realistic chance of jumping us (including Hawthorn).

We should be arrogant about games like this, and we should shout down people who suggested we could lose. Then our bloody team should have gone out and facking torn them a new one. We will never get anywhere until we expect to win games like that, and our players demand of each other that they deliver. 'Will we, won't we' just shouldn't even be a discussion.

But why on earth would he want to, at this point?

Maybe, I don't know. I'm talking about Friday nights anyway

I can. Essendon are useless and we are making them look like millionaires.

I can. Essendon are useless and we are making them look like millionaires.

Yep, completely agree. This is why we lose so often to teams like this - we just have NFI and if we stopped playing into their hands we'd be fine. I'm frustrated too, don't worry. There's no way they should be within 8 goals of us.

Why shouldn't we think we would smash them? Every other team will - what constantly makes us so negative that we even give them a sniff? And yes, people on here are defeatist. Same thing last week, and look what happened then. We are playing disgracefully and are only 9 points down. Pull our fingers out a bit and we'll be fine.

They are absolutely slicing us up in traffic.

How was that not high on Jones?

We're 10 minutes into the second quarter!

Fantastic that the commentators literally say they are barracking for Essendon. Disgusting.