Undeeterred

You bewty! Who cares where we play him and why is it bad that we have more options? People here worried about Martin, Gawn etc, why not make them compete for their spots? If they are good enough, they will make it. Same goes for the mid forwards - if they can't get a game because the competition is too strong, why is that so bad?

He is a cracker. I still remember him running off Buddy Franklin last year with nothing but Buddy and the goals behind him, trapping it at about CHB and belting it back over everyone's heads. Will be an out and out star.

I reckon I have said that a few times... I'm willing to be convinced otherwise though.

Collingwood lost because: their best assistant coach left on the eve of the finals, this would have been really destabilising Jolly was even more of a dinosaur than normal (although he had a lot of hit outs, absolutely no influence around the ground) Ben Reid obviously wasn't right, because he couldn't run in the second half and Hawkins towelled him Geelong's pressure was intense Mick Malthouse's last game was a huge distraction AND they believed their own hype Geelong were harder at it for longer and were just classier. I could prob think of a few more reasons but that's enough for now.

Watts fell over every 3 minutes or so in his first year or two, as I recall, and he will be a genuine superstar. Sometimes I think people just post threads like this to fill in time.... I mean, we only have 42 players - surely if we stick at it we can cane them all eventually.

I've really changed my mind about Beamer in the last few days. How's giving it to Col? Get your [censored] together and win one of these, tiger. Love it.

Bottom 4?? Kidding yourselves. They are awesome.

Damn straight

I reckon, subject to not giving up too much, why wouldn't we have him? How many times does our midfield look up and see a bunch of Melbourne blokes with gorillas on them, and have nobody to kick it to? We don't have a forward who can beat any of Glass, Scarlett, Ben Reid and similar types. Why wouldn't recruit seemingly the only big forward who is available? I think that would free up Jurrah, Green and Pettard etc and stop them being the 'big' marking target down forward.

Rivers?? Wow... Very happy for him though - love him!

I only watched the last quarter, but I thought he looked slow against a very average midfield. Hawks, Blues, Pies and Cats would smash him in the midfield I reckon.

What a downer...

How are we still in this?? Come on Dees, give us something to yell about!

Umps are even worse than we are. Jones kicks along the line under pressure and gets pinged for deliberate? Where the hell else was he supposed to go?

He should never have got within 15 feet of him. Just bad decision making.

HOW DO YOU GET TACKLED ON A KICK OUT??????

That last effort from Green was pathetic.

I've only watched the last quarter, and we actually don't look too bad. But that is only because Port is so [censored] RUBBISH! We really, really suck

Amazing how much love there is for Col - up until yesterday seemed like there was little but vitriol for him. Clearly he doesn't read Demonland, or he would have been off....

Agree - really sad, I really rate Rivers, but its over, isn't it...

I agree - I am at the point where I think toughness is just about the sole criterion we need in a coach. A bit of an exaggeration, perhaps,but not too far off the mark.

I don't see it as such a big deal. I'd put money on Maxwell being the sub in his first game back... If you are coming off 'injury', you can justify the captain as sub.

LOL - me too. At least he went out with a bang. Thanks for the memories (and the hanger) Col!

It did surprise me - sounds more likely from previous experience that they would all have NFI what was going on, and nobody would end up spoiling. But he's just kicked a goal so let's cut him some slack.

Sounds from the radio like a couple of contests have been shirked in the first half. Jones was mentioned which surpised me - anybody watching and see this