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It depends on how one views drafting ... some only want to view 'best case scenario' as if it's an exact science and busts are just team blunders. Me ... I like to keep things real. In a seller's market the Eagles could expect a first round pick. But only if it is a seller's market.

It's an auction of sorts - and one that we don't necessarily hear about. The money offered to Foles by any given team is comparable to how much that team is willing to give to the Eagles in picks and/or players. But not always. The 'Auction' price will depend on how many teams are genuinely interested and what those teams can offer the Eagles. One thing is for sure ... this is a rather unprecedented situation. And I'm still questioning that whole Garoppolo trade anyway. I don't why the Pats would leave themselves short that close to the post season when they didn't have to ... unless the Alpha male Brady wanted him out of there. They might have sold him for unders in which case a mid 2nd round draft pick (as it turned out) was not Garoppolo's true value.

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You may be able to talk Foles into staying for a year but he (and his own agent) will be looking at his own value in terms of future salaries and whether that would depreciate over 12 months (especially if he doesn't play much, if at all) Regardless, he'd probably need some more millions and a longer deal (guaranteed) to satisfy. @DeeSpencer would know about the compo picks and how free agency works (would he be a restricted free agent?) I'm not completely up with it Dappa although Green Bay only ever seem to lose free agents! Your whole post was a good analysis looking at it from all sorts of angles ... as for where he could end up? Probably an AFC team as there aren't that many spots in the NFC that might be available. However ... Could he work in with Eli? The Giants are a divisional rival though How long does Brees keep going? 40 years old next season. The Bears seem to be ok with Trubisky but is that an absolute? Arizona are looking to draft a QB so there's a spot Over in the AFC there's a number of teams who could be looking at him ... Buffalo, Miami?, Jacksonville, The Jets?, Cincinnati?, Cleveland, Denver and how long does Rivers at the Chargers go on for? Even the Patriots are a remote possibility although again, Foles will almost certainly want to be a starter and he'll be offered 'Starters' money from somewhere. And a deal could happen faster than we think too ... certain teams might want to jump in early for fear of missing out. Deals are often done 'In principle' before the designated dates.

Yep, that's how I see it. Also, players want to play. It is hard to invisage a Super Bowl MVP being happy to sit on the sidelines for his next game/season.

Foles will almost certainly receive a multi year reasonably lucrative offer from elsewhere ... and the Eagles wouldn't be able to match that considering they'll have to pay Wentz big big dollars at some stage in the near future. And Foles will want to play ... why would he want to sit on the sidelines? The Eagles could be offered a decent return for Foles (a late 1st round pick or a 2nd round pick) but apart from that, they may feel morally obligated to let him go anyway (if thats how it pans out) He might stay but the Eagles are going to have to up the ante ... and again, they won't want a standoff situation with all the goodwill that has been created. Whether Foles is worth what I've indicated is irrelevant ... in sport the world over, teams will sometimes pay overs and sometimes pay unders. And this is one of those situations.

They actually played in coloured clothing back in the day - hard to believe but it's true. Navy Blue & Red I believe I've only started to appreciate the Demons flags in the last 10-15 years or so. Before that, I couldn't relate to our previous success much at all. This club we all support here has a magnificent rich history and we've twice been an absolute powerhouse of the league. Some of the more iconic names from the past are former Demons as well (Smith, Barassi et al) Looked at another way ... imagine if we'd only ever won 1 or 2 premierships in our history? Or, if we only count the AFL Flags we've never won a flag. The VFL was stupendously huge long before the AFL was ever thought of. I've also been heavily involved at local level for long periods of time and recognising the past is often mandatory ... past players are often involved for decades after they finish playing. Honour boards are dotted around the rooms & Premiership reunions happen every other year etc etc. Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, the Eagles just won their 4th Title

It's hard to believe that Foles might have played his last game for the Eagles but there's a good chance that might happen. Again, it's strictly business. If Foles is offered a 4 year deal of 60-70 million elsewhere with 40 million of it guaranteed then he has to take it as opposed to a much lesser deal that the Eagles could offer. It's a very strange situation but also a very real one. But it won't tear apart the fan base as even the most fervent of fans know how the whole system works. Welcome to the thread Col ... and congrats as well. I'm a great believer in recognising the past so this is Title no.4 for Philadelphia. As you're no doubt well aware, the Eagles were NFL Champs in '48, '49 & '60 before the Championship game was ever called the Super Bowl. Those who disagree are simply ignoring the rich history of the NFL. For instance, the NFL had it's first draft in 1936. Imagine being plucked from some obscure University and having to relocate across the other side of the US in 1936.

The whole New England set-up moving forward is fascinating. I'm not sure that there's another job elsewhere for Belichick and I doubt he'd retire from football completely. He may entertain the thought of taking another role like Coughlin has. What we do know is that the Pats haven't got a replacement for Brady in place and they are about to lose their offensive & defensive coordinators. Trading Garoppolo still seems like a questionable move even taking into account how well Brady is playing. However, teams always find it difficult to pay an in-demand 2nd string QB enough money. Belichick almost certainly stays but it could be an uneasy alliance.

Yep, that's how good they are. Dappa picked this type of scoreline but I couldn't see it ... both teams came into the game with renowned defenses. In the recent past at least. That sack/fumble was the only sack of the entire game ... and Brandon Graham had the wherewithal to get a hand in there and strip the ball. There were other huge moments in the game but it's those telling moments at the end of these types of games that gets remembered. The other big story was the Pats not starting Malcolm Butler as a CB - his replacement Eric Dunn was apparently targeted and as a result, often beaten in one-on-ones. Did Belichick make a fatal error? Bill doesn't make errors does he?

So with just over 2 minutes to go and the Pats have the ball ready for a final drive ... 5 points down and who wasn't thinking that New England were going to march down and win the game? I know I was. And then 'It' happened ... the sack/fumble which ends up with the Eagles scoring a field goal and with it, an 8 point lead. But it still wasn't over because this is the New England Patriots and they are never beaten. That final 'Hail-Mary' was very nearly caught - they get that and the 2 point conversion is a soda and it's a tied game. And who wins in overtime? It's was a Super Bowl to be remembered and the Eagles had to play an incredible offensive game to win it. It's just an amazing sport in terms of all the permutations.

Later on we can all have a chat about what happens with the whole Wentz/Foles thing but for now - enjoy the moment and celebrate! As Bill Parcells told his SB winning teams ... "Nobody can ever say that you didn't win a Championship/Super Bowl." And with 32 teams involved, they are bloody hard to win.

And what about the coaching performance of Doug Pederson? Loses his franchise QB and then flips things about like Belichick might do. That's one for the ages. The offensive numbers for the Pats were through the roof ... any other time they win with those numbers but the simple fact is that Foles and his offense outduelled Brady & his counterparts.

The Pats defense was below ordinary as well ... and that's on the Eagles offense and coaching staff. When was the last time the Pats defense was below ordinary in a playoff game? Never is my answer.

I missed that ... Wow! That's a 30 for 30. Nick Foles - A Story of Redemption (The Comeback?) I thought you had the system to work with him but he has exceeded all expectations. By a Street!

You'll rewatch this game at least 5 or 6 times this week alone!

So who gets MVP? There were a lot of standout offensive players including Brady & his 3 receivers. Foles? Blount? Clement?

Get comfortable Dappa!!!! You had to beat a great team and play great as well. And you did! Congrats!

Surely the Eagles win ... surely

This game has had everything - except for a reasonable amount of decent defense! Although that sack/fumble on Brady will be talked about forever if the Eagles hang on. Eagles 41 Pats 33

Brady fumbles! Can you believe it?

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!! Eagles 38 Pats 33 after the Eagles can't convert the 2 points Not always --- unless the receiver who catches the ball and becomes a runner. If he catches the ball and isn't a runner the catch can be called incomplete Confused? We all are!

I reckon he breaks the plane as a runner

And we've got that call again ... I hate this rule

Wow ... what a play on 4th down! Tough catch too under big pressure The Eagles had to go for it of course but that play could be telling.