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Mixed reactions there ... took a special horse to defeat our pick but I wasn't going to make Redkirk my best bet anyway. Mind you, I did get the trifecta which payed very well considering the first 3 were my 3 picks to win. Anyway, we've still got 3 picks going (or at least I have)

See D77's post above They are now saying Hugh has concussion issues and has possibly lost a few teeth. No other reports of any other injuries (as yet) It must be a real shock coming off a horse at that speed ... with no pre-warning of course. The horse just went sideways (left) in a flash. It wasn't squeezed for room or anything like that. It had clear ground.

Well if there is any vertebrae damage or any broken bones or fractures, you wouldn't think so Wadda. Collarbone, the AC joint or the ribs would have all been impacted. We forget sometimes how much of an extreme sport it is for the jockeys ... the horses too of course. My initial thoughts were that the horse wasn't impressed with the persuader and reacted accordingly. Could be wrong of course.

That was a nasty fall for Hugh Bowman ... I've rewound the race a number of times and it looks like the horse just suddenly goes sideways under pressure. The horse goes to the left whilst Hugh goes to the right. Hope he is ok ... apparently moving now after initially laying motionless.

Udyta Clarke trained the winner of the 300k Bernborough Hcp (Someday) back in late December. Saluted at 40-1 in what was another great story.

The Australian Cup is an interesting trifecta race ... a good dividend beckons with so many horses being able to get into the finish. Homesman & Hartnell have claims as well. Gailo Chop is good odds though, all the same.

The tipsters are all hot & cold Wadda ... and it's always been that way and it always will be that way. Even working as a team has its issues but its got to be better than 1 person's opinion. Anyway, I've got a hot tip for the Adelaide Cup (Monday) from another mate who only ever gets 3 or 4 of these tips per year ... these tips rarely, if ever, don't come through. It's a Weir horse which will be ridden by Craig Williams - No.11 Ormito.

For the punters, the 'Get On' crew should combine their thoughts for each leg of their quaddie pick. And if they bomb out, they all have to wear it. Again, they are just trying to outdo one another ... which is fun to watch but not very helpful. Unless one follows a particular tipster who's strike rate is highly profitable, I don't see the point in taking them seriously. Never have in fact.

I agree Wadda ... we can't be betting against each other with regards to the best bet otherwise the idea dies just as quickly as it started. I understand that we should be able to say whatever we like but in terms of a team effort, the combined best bet is the only real team aspect here. But punters more often than not prefer to fly solo and the combining of thoughts is a usually regarded as a foreign concept I've never understood that thinking because it simply doesn't work from an overall perspective. That doesn't mean we have to all fall into line, it simply means that we should try and avoid going against another persons best bet here (what anyone does privately is a different matter) It would probably be a lot different if there were a dozen of us here ... if that were to be, the thread would almost certainly turn into an online version of a TAB outlet We'd all be trying to outdo one another. If you watch 'Get On' on Racing.com then you'll know what I'm talking about ... whilst the show is a lot of fun and often informative, they are all trying to outdo one another. Even in their quaddie pick they fly solo in each leg rather than work as a team in each leg.

Latest (max) odds for our 3 best bets (with one more to come) Flem Race 6 No.11 Merchant Navy 5.50 Rand Race 7 No.3 Kementari 3.00 Flem Race 8 No.4 Gailo Chop 3.40 Combined payout - 56.00 Australian Group & Listed Races

Shields was decent but I suppose he was expendable in the end ... Lombardi: Getting rid of players key to sustained success

'Show a Star is also entered in the 200k Canberra Cup on Sunday ... currently showing 4.60. In fact, there are a few horses entered for both Randwick & Canberra. The Black Opal Stakes for 2yo's is now worth 300k as compared to the 2 Randwick races for 2yo's which are both also worth 300k.

Yep ... with the odds booster I just got 47-1 for the 3 saluting. As you said Wadda, that is excellent combined odds for 3 very classy racehorses.

With the other 2 best bets to come I will be doing the 4 trebles ... we're due for at least 3 of the 4 to get up. Just a small outlay on each but the combined odds will be a lot better this week.

You can get $6 for Merchant Navy at Ladbrokes (enhanced odds) And I also like Gailo Chop in the Australian Cup Wadda whilst also being concerned with Redkirk Warrior and Brave Smash in the Newmarket but ... Merchant Navy (52kgs) has only ever carried 55.5kgs up to 58kgs.

Continuing my theme of looking for the class horse which is the best horse I'll go with 'Kementari' in the Randwick Guineas as my best bet. Found a few standouts at Morphettville & Ascot but they are just good horses in inferior fields. We've got the 2 best bets so far so it's over to @Demon77 & @binman Here are the 2 best bets so far ... Flemington Race 6 No.11 Merchant Navy (5.50) Randwick Race 7 No.3 Kementari (2.90) Australian Group & Listed Races

As you blokes are well aware, I'm a trifecta punter so it stands to reason that I find the Group 1 races to be quite tricky. So to help each other in all the exotics (Quaddies, Quinellas, First 4's, Trifecta's and the like) I thought it might be an idea to post up our top 3 in the Group 1's. However, narrowing it down to 3 possible winners is no easier than trying to find one standout! Anyway, here goes ... Newmarket Hcp ... Redkirk Warrior, Brave Smash, Merchant Navy Australian Cup ... Gailo Chop, Homesman, Almandin Canterbury Stakes ... Global Glamour, Foxplay, Clearly Innocent Randwick Guineas ... Kementari, Pierata, Ace High

I should know already but the handicap conditions in the Newmarket Hcp means that all bar 2 horses (Redkirk Warrior 57.5kgs & Brave Smash 56.5kgs) are carrying 52.5kgs or less. I've also noted that David Hayes has mentioned a few times that in the sprint races the weight isn't such a factor (unless the difference is significant) So is 4 or 5kgs quite significant over the 1200m? You'd reckon it is and that probably explains why the top 2 horses are at each-way odds. What I do know is that there are a number of good or very good horses carrying very little weight in the race.

Sorted out all my trifectas tonight ... fine tuning only required. For years I did the form on a Friday night/Saturday morning armed with various publications but these days Racenet.com does the job. Race 6 at Randwick (Canterbury Stakes - Group 1) was a toughie even though there are only 9 runners ... I could make a case for 8 of the 9 winning. In the end I had to take a few educated guesses. The trifecta & first 4 could pay well in that race, all things considered.

lol ... I feel the same way about Redkirk Warrior - Ladbrokes is offering $8 but I was thinking of using the horse as my best bet. May still do of course and if so, I can see that 4 pick multi paying the big bucks! Trouble is that we start going South after we get to '2 from 2'! Maybe it's the week where we stick our necks out? You just never know Wadda!

It is a bit confusing with the distances for Guineas races, Derby & Oaks races A quick glance at the Australian Group & Listed Races gives all the distances for the 3yo races - here are the main ones in the Autumn ... Randwick Guineas 1600m (March 10) $1Million Rosehill Guineas 2000m (March 24) 600k Vinery Stud Stakes 2000m (F) (March 31) 500k Australian Derby 2400m (April 7) $2Million ATC Oaks 2400m (F) (April 14) $1Million

I favour the latter argument 'br' ... The risk of being caught using PED's is much much higher for a sportsperson in a sport that has stringent drug testing. Would-be cheats in sports where there is token testing are virtually free to do as they please. Transparency has a cost when it comes to stringent testing ... the more that get caught has the effect of turning people off that sport. So to keep the customers happy, just do the token testing. Works a treat.

The news is hotting up with regards to Nick Foles ... and it seems that Foles himself will be involved in the negotiations (that's according to coach Pederson) Nick Foles trade rumors: Eagles get a 'respectable' offer, AFC team dangled second-rounder

One thing is for sure D77 ... there will be a number of very good 2yo's that won't run a place in the race. The question is, which ones? And we might even have a surprise winner outside of the top 6. If 'Spin' gets a run it could surprise ... couldn't get a run on Saturday but nearly got up (and the inside running wasn't the favoured way of going) As you said, Sunlight & Written By have been outstanding whilst Performer & Estijaab haven't done a lot wrong. And then there's Santos (Gai has told us all to back him) and Seabrook was also impressive on Saturday. Prairie Fire and Nomothaj also have claims. I normally steer clear of the 2yo races but not this time around ... there's a lot of high interest and any number of chances can win the Slipper. Oohood for a place? ha ha

The strategy might mean to avoid Wadda! ... I have enjoyed the excellent feedback from your good self & binman though. What the chat has done is reinforce my trifecta strategy in terms of avoiding the big fields in Sydney & Melbourne but to also look elsewhere for the right type of trifecta races (Ascot, Sha Tin & maybe Morphettville/Doomben) I'm a great believer in 'whatever works' ...and if that means avoiding a bet in the odd big feature event, so be it.