Rob Mac......

Hahahaha what a ride

Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Watts 4th ...we're there!!!

26 pts. Hold the champagne corks

A thrashing is more accurately measured by how many times our score they kicked, rather than the actual point spread. 186 Geelong kicked 4.95 times our score. 148, Essendon kicked 5.11 times our score. 1/2 time today Hawthorn is 6.3 times our score

Oh Please Dr Mubutu! Don't quote players as a sign of support for any coach. Players never criticise their coach because he has the power to ruin their careers. [Macca posted great explanations for this 6 weeks ago] Neelds appalling people skills has contributed greatly to the lack of spirit/effort, and his poor game plan nous kills us too. These are the 2 main things a coach needs! Plenty else is wrong, but he's a useless coach who should be gone now whether we have a permanent replacement or not.

Perhaps Viney again until hopefully Roos is appointed. Surely they'd play better with no coach as long as Neeld is gone, plus the exodus may subside knowing he's gone. Hesitant to want Rodney Eade, because he seems deficient in game plan nous, because it took him years to realise the dogs needed a power forward or two. Had they got Barry Hall and one other like him 3 or 4 years before they did, the dogs may have won a premiership.

I'm buying it!! I reckon Spencer will Dominate the ruck, Jones, Sylvia etc will really lift with the 1st ball use, Howe & Gawn will be unstoppable up forward and we'll win!! Woohoo! Hang on, someone's at the front door, ....it's some guys in white coats

Ha, Robbo posted it while I was typing.

Here it is! http://www.afl.com.au/video/smart-replay/?round=CD_R201301404&matchId=CD_M20130140407 Click on the second goal in the last quarter (big Maxy's goal). It's just after that. Many other fine clearances from him. A great game Col!!!

I agree with Chook & Richo on channel 7; Who cares how they look as long as they play.

6. Jones Howe Frawley Clark Viney 1. Davey

You're right Macca, I've been back in Melbourne 2-3 months and see it. However I'm unconfident we have enough people at MFC in positions of authority with enough footy nous to know who to hire and what to do. As much as I feel for them, I think Schwab and Neeld should go and probably more, but who to get?!

So it seems we actually agree about much about the club. I never claimed I was the only one believing the points I made, though I've had them all along.

I made 5 serious comments and 2 minor ones of which trading Jamar and keeping Martin as 1st ruck was one. And I do think we'd have done 20-30 ponts better today with him rucking.

Because 1. our coach has no idea of game plan or people skills. 2. We have a nice but unintelligent CEO [which affects little things every day & it adds up] 3. It seems we have and have had so little serious footy nous at any level of the club, leading to: 4. Poor decisions re drafting, hiring coaches & everyone 5. People not realising that AFL is a very serious full time career now. [i was slaughtered by D'land posters when I suggested Martin needed to spend much time thinking about his footy, learning to play CHF & ruck, and less time with the girlfriend and the Law studies etc., ] I suggested we trade Jamar while he was worth something & keep Martin as 1st ruck this year. Have a nice day everyone :-)

The replay was fine on my Macbook pro Bing.

Loved 5aa complimenting our kicking! After losing every stat except clearances & tackles, it's pleasing we must have done something right to win.

Yes exactly rpfc! The vulnerability I meant was, if Russian goes down for weeks or the season, who becomes 1st ruck? Spencers training reviews sound promising though, have you seen him lately?

The OP's link leads to "out of bounds"? Sooooo hope Gawn or Spencer really step up soon. Russian carrying us alone all year leaves us vulnerable with Martin gone. Pederson @ 193cm 95k is Dunn/Frawley size, surely too small for much rucking isn't he (yet he's always mentioned as a 2nd ruck)? Interesting days coming.

Which doesn't make it one millionth of a percent better! Risking innocent peoples lives is wrong, please stop defending the indefensible.

Hi Hardtack. Sure hope you're right! Maybe it's a Freudian slip when you characterised it as firstly their personal side and secondly, "legal issues to be dealt with by the courts". I haven't sensed Jurrahs' concern or responsibility for other people hurt or potentially hurt by his actions (here, MFC & maybe more) and this should mean more to a person than just "legal issues" (which I've generally noticed evil people brush off as kinda "legal technicalities"). I have. Though personally I didn't say his culture had nothing to do with it, I said it shouldn't be used as an excuse. I'm also a bit sorry for him even though he appears irresponsible and uncaring toward anyone not extremely close to him.

I just read in the Hun and Advertiser: " Jurrah's grandmother said that the drink-driving matter was an issue for Jurrah and his family to sort out among themselves. "It's between Liam and his family ... no one else's business," she said. "We're sorting it out as a family. He's OK." " If Jurrah's family member(s) really think his risking innocent lives [driving 5 times over alcohol limit (not the machete)] is no-ones business but theirs, that's very selfish, dangerous thinking! .and someones "culture" shouldn't be used as an excuse for that.

I hope and suspect you're wrong Frankie because, while I don't know what rules govern AFL procedures of this type, if it were taking place in a court of law, then rules of discovery would mandate complete disclosure of all evidence in advance. ie. No evidence could be witheld till later as you suggested above.

Hahah, I hear you Macca! ..and agree. But taking the higher road, we should consider the AFL (somewhat) innocent until they've made unfair sanctions against us (if they ever do). In the mean time they're supposed to be acting in a fair, impartial way. Yes Sue, you and many others.After Brocky boys genius interview and ensuing media storm, AA in Vlad's absence, decided an investigation was needed for integrity reasons. I understand Dee's being defensive, but perhaps the AFL aren't trying to destroy us, just trying to keep the competition, especially it's image and endorsers, running smoothly. The only people gaining from this whole circus are the media and lawyers.