Rob Mac......

Dunn Pedersen Jamar M Jones Cross Vince

Agreed Jarka! That's why a few days ago i suggested he move into the VINEY household for awhile to learn some necessary lessons from Todd and JV.

Best quarter from Jamar for a LONG time. Watts tackling & going in but one badly missed mark.

I agree with you CDDees, but that was 100% NOT my point at all and I shouldn't have mentioned the school because it's triggered a reflex. Everything else written I did mean though. The values at home are very, very influential and specifically I found Jacks mothers interview alarming. She seemed a lovely mum, but not one to encourage physically tough play from Jack at all, nor to believe footy's a serious career.

I just posted this on post match discussion, but realize it should be here. I've loved and always defended Jack Watts talents, but: I don't know, but is Jack still living with his parents? Does anyone remember the interview with Jacks mum just after he was drafted? Please correct if I'm wrong but I recall her saying things like, "Don't worry, Jack's got his head screwed on correctly, he knows it's only a game of football," she said depreciatingly. She seemed as lovely a mum as anyone could possibly have, but her attitude towards the game seemed appropriate for someone playing school footy, who's going on to a serious career later (she'd mean non-football career as nothing football would be serious enough to risk injury over). I've meet plenty of Brighton Grammar type mothers like that (I was at Scotch) and can imagine her saying, "Now don't you get hurt out there Jack, it's not worth it," and Jack, being a good boy would agree. Jack needs to share a HOME with some intelligent but tough footballers. Preferably lighter weight like himself. He should move in to the VINEY household for awhile!! ..have their URGENCY rub off on him, learn more about navigating physically tough scenarios while avoiding injury yet pressuring/intimidating the opposition. Also to learn that this IS his serious job, can pay well and lead to post playing jobs also.

I've loved and always defended Jack Watts talents, but: I don't know, but is Jack still living with his parents? Does anyone remember the interview with Jacks mum just after he was drafted? Please correct if I'm wrong but I recall her saying things like, "Don't worry, Jack's got his head screwed on correctly, he knows it's only a game of football," she said depreciatingly. She seemed as lovely a mum as anyone could possibly have, but her attitude towards the game seemed appropriate for someone playing school footy, who's going on to a serious career later (she'd mean non-football career as nothing football would be serious enough to risk injury over). I've meet plenty of Brighton Grammar type mothers like that (I was at Scotch) and can imagine her saying, "Now don't you get hurt out there Jack, it's not worth it," and Jack, being a good boy would agree. Jack needs to share a home with some intelligent but tough footballers. Preferably lighter weight like himself. He should move in to the Viney household for awhile!! ..to have some of their urgency rub off on him, learn more about how to navigate physically tough scenarios while still avoiding injury yet pressuring/intimidating the opposition. Also to learn that this IS his serious job, can pay well and lead to post playing jobs also.

Bail Goals!! What movie am I watching

We did well, got tired. Grimes should have known 5 min B4 siren. He kicked to a contest & they ended up with a goal. Simple easy posession would have been the way to handle the last 5 minutes of Q2

Bail runs well & finds space, can't kick

After being thrashed, we're only 2 points down

4 times Frawley in good position forward, but terrible delivery to him

Dunn goal

ROOS JUST SAID FRAWLEY MAY PLAY FORWARD

I'll agree with Jumbo about Dunn, and agree with the OP, except I think we have only 12 AFL standard players because we'll probably never see much more of Clark, & I'll lower Grimes to questionable and Trengove to a no.

I was near both of you; Southern Stand, ground level, Punt Road end, HFF. Surprisingly, being aged 15, I remember more about talking with a girl, up all night outside the G, waiting in line to buy tickets.

Tom McDonald totally hobbling

Dunn, Watts, Jones

Nice work Watts

Grimes, bad handball = St.K goal. Now a bad kick, turnover

loving it so far

I remember them well and think it's a good idea. Wondering how many of them are still with us?

Ok I'll tip the Saints to surprise us and lead most of the day. Our boys won't drop their heads, will hang in and come from behind to win a thriller by 4 points! ..and we'll all go nuts. :-)

Oh yes RTG, I should think so! :-) No I have no details, heard he was doing very well managing it and respect that he keeps himself on the park.

Exactly OD! I really wanted to trade Jamar after 2011 & 2012 Spot on again IMO. I love how Fitzy's really improved and, despite his diabetic past, keeps himself reliably ready to play!

#3 is Joel Selwood, right?