Winter Dan

Doubles our kick out options. Tough ask for opp to nulify both Gawn and Grundy targets.

Ok, watched from the Olympic Stand which is a great view. We fundamentally lost this game in the coaches box \ game style. Which is on us because apparently as BB said 'we can win in multiple ways' Two key points: 1.They played an extra at stoppage, we played a spare with the backs. 2. It was slippery. Had rained just before game and maybe bit of drizzle during. Despite being outnumbered at the contest and wet, we handballed around the contest rather than putting it on tge boot to one on ones in the fwd half. So we coughed it up and denied our forwards chances. This was why so many fwds had poor games. We looked fumbly bc of the wet and the pressure combined. Secondly, on transition we refused to kick long and quick to space and one on ones. Rather we held up play to congest our fwd half. So we wanted to bottle it up at the expense of scoring. These are the 2 game style points that cost us. Not withstanding some 50's and missed opps that just went against us. Now these elements are somewhat normal to our game plan, but it was the wrong play for the opp setup and conditions last night. We defended ourselves out of the game. Opp sides can have no fear if we never threaten to hurt them on the scoreboard. I dont think slippery conditions suit us, but comparatively it did the swans who are pressure based and who love the spilled contest and crumb with their agility and high skill.

I agree. Scaryly it sounds just like Neale's game plan.

Absolutley! Puts the competition in disrepute.

Yeah! I thought it was supposed to be the backbone of our game plan, at least it was last year. Grind teams away and out run them in the 4th.

Had similar experience. Upper deck, predominently dees supporters. I was really frustrated with how quite dees supporters were, like they were out bird watching. I like dee supporters aren't aholes but they give nothing to actively support tge team. Club knows it too - see Nazeem's video on 'how to cheer at the game'. The crowd along with Melb's insipid game plan made if feel like a non-final.

JUST KICK THE F#!@ BALL , its too slippery to handball it around.

Dees playing one spare back so swans have tge extra at stoppage. So i dont know why we don't stop with the handball (its bit slippery) and bang it fwd. To that poinr for some reason we are holding it back for more numbers to get back into our fwd 50 rather than go quick to one on one. Sound idiotic? Does to me.

Amen to this! It needs to be said - thank you! Really irks me when other supporters at the game dont support, sit quietly, wtf. Supporters got to do their bit too.

Very high intensity game in the 2nd qrt.

Anyone seen any footage of why ANB was keeled over barfing ?

Lions played us into form 😉

Zorko is such a [censored]. Wouldn't be suprised if he had 4 citations at the tribunal this wk.

With the amount of pressure they brought, id say it motivated them quote alot. Utterly stupid thing to say.

Darcy Fort would be a good fit.

Brayshaw in the middle is like want we wanted from the Cerra deal.

Excellent point re Jackson - Darcy is 24. Jackson wld be second ruck forever. Gawn is 30 and we are already loading him up to be 1st ruck.

River's depth of kicking... he shd be taking kick outs or be the guy in th epocket taking the second kick from kickouts. Salem only gets 45 on his kicks ...

I guess because that might have to be the sacrifice Grundy has to make if he wants to play with Melb. No doubt he cld stay at the pies or go to another club that has oodles of salary cap space and retain the $. I just cant see melb paying huge coin for a second ruckman. Didnt we get BBB on a lower pay day, essentially because it was the right move\fit? Thats what im thinking of, but sure, he has a contract, BBB didnt.

Regardless of any club split of the contract, I wld think Grundy would need to accept a pay reduction. He has always looked a cultural mis-fit at Collingwood, surrounded by meat heads like Adams, De Goey and the general supporter base. I'd only want to give a late first rounder.

Agree. That remains the question. Freo played into our hands. Pies will be a good test for our game style.

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Hunt in to cover one of their 4 quicks is a good move.

I consider the long contracts a strategic cap approach. Means we can pay under market for prime years, allowing us to maximise the talent on the list during our premiership window. Then at the back end of the deals, player performance might tapper off but realistically we'll be going into rebuild.