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I'm unclear what this comment is doing in a thread about Jack Trengove being delisted at Port Adelaide. Seems a bit off topic.

The biggest surprise in this story is that AFL Trade radio is apprently up and running already. Must be organised by the same people who bring you hot cross buns in January.

I'm not sure if we're agreeing or arguing! I agree that Jones should not be captain and that he is lucky not have been dropped during the season just passed. When I said that his season was OK because he wasn't dropped, that wasn't intended to be a ringing endorsement, just a statement that if he had actually been any poorer, he would have been playing in the VFL side. However, as I've said many times on Demonland, the team's capatin doesn't have to be its best player. It has to be someone who is guaranteed to be in the team's best 22 when everyone is available but more importantly has to show leadership on and off the field. (In my opinion, showing leadership on field was not that important until they changed the rule about runners being on the ground). Off field leadership includes stuff we see - such as media interviews - as well as things we would have no idea about (setting training standards, meeting/greeting sponsors, setting professional standards, working with the younger players, etc). As Jones in 2020 could not possibly be guaranteed a spot in the best 22 and as neither Jones or Viney are good media performers, I don't think either should be captain. Getting back to the point of this thread, how a player goes in the Brownlow is no indicator of whether they should be captain or not. Low vote numbers mean just as much as high vote numbers (does anyone believe Dustin Martin would be a good captain?)

Oh dear.

He wasn't dropped to the reserves. You may believe he should have been (and at times I did, too) but he kept his position in the side.

As a matter of interest, have you changed since you were 18? Are you taller, heavier, more (or less) dedicated to your studies or job? There are lots of reasons why drafted kids develop differently, and that's before taking into consideration the skill each club has in developing players.

Jones had an OK year - not great and not particularly bad. But he didn't spend much of it in the midfield. He spent most of the season on the wing or the half back flank with occasional stints forward. Whether Jones and Viney should be captains is a good question, but their polling in the Brownlow is probably the least worthy metric by which to assess their suitability for the job.

In 2013 I pined for mediocrity.

It might be seen as a yawnfest to some, but it is still consistently one of the highest rating TV programs of the year. I note the AFL or Channel 7 (or both) have said they are making some changes to it this year to stop it dragging on so long. It will be interesting to see what they are. (Mind you, I won't be watching as I'll be working. But in interests of full disclosure, if I wasn't working I would be watching. I can't explain why, but I always find it strangely compelling.) My prediction? Patrick Cripps. And most votes for a Melbourne player: Max Gawn

Hence, she still gets one more than most.

Perhaps we asked to be relieved of the Darwin game? I'm surprised how many people in this thread are finding negatives about the loss of the Darwin game given that there seems to be uniform and unequivocal detestation for it each year when we play there.

Looking at that right forearm, I fully expect to hear he's gone to Hollywood to play Popeye.

Actually, Dec can go one better. He can talk about his first game and talk about his last game (but not mention there were none in between).

About his foot never being 100% again, is that a published fact or your opinion? (Genuine question). He used his right foot more this year than previously, so it woould seem he is conscious of the problem of being a one-sided player, but I agree he certainly needs to improve that part of his game.

I'm not sure I agree with you. Judd was a superstar player but I'm not convinced he was a particularly good leader. That's not intended to be a criticism of Judd as a person. Some people are leaders, and some just aren't. And that's OK.

Is it, though? Are we expected to automatically assume that because a former assistant coach made the statement it must be true? He might be wrong. After all, if that was the problem, and the coaches were aware of it, why wasn't it fixed?

I'm not in favour of a Wild Card weekend. It just allows weaker teams an opportunity to make finals to be beaten up by stronger teams. A team that is 10th on the ladder after 23 rounds is in the bottom half of the ladder and shouldn't be eleigible to play finals under any arrangement. I accept a wild card round might keep some momentum going, but I'd rather go straight to finals instead. (By the way, what happened to 9th?)

Does anyone else think the bye between Round 23 and the first weekend of finals kills off interest, at least for neutral supporters? I've spoken to a few avid AFL supporters whose teams didn't make the finals, and we all agree that interest levels haven't just dropped but have virtually disappeared. For balance, I note that Gil MaClalchlan has said that since the bye was introduced, TV ratings, spectator numbers and (I think) revenues have all increased. It is a small sample (of seasons), and could be distorted by the teams playing, but it's only fair that I point out what he claims to be evidence which supports the bye.

Can you confirm he was "sacked". I have no recllection of his movements, but didn't he join us at about that time, so is it possible he chose to leave to come to us?

I like that a person with a username which includes "Wrecker" manages to alter the name of this site to "demo-land". Freudian, perhaps?

You forgot to look at page 2 of his resume where it says he has zero experience in coaching, list management and football administration.

Oli, I think you should take your own advice. In 2019, Viney played 21 out of 22 games.

Property development is not our core business. I'd rather sell to someone else and let them take the risks associated with that activity.

Do we actually own the land or just the business?

This stuff makes my eyes glaze over. I'm impressed with the level of understanding others have on Demonland about how the points system works. More importantly, though, it seems that our club is one of the leaders in understanding it and have made some smart decisions making extracting value before other clubs caught up. I hope we're still front runners in our understanding of the system.