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He hasn't had much of a chance to show what he's got on the field as a skipper yet but this was a really timely and well done letter.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
Pates replied to Tinks's topic in Melbourne Demons
If they were to bring in the "super sub" again, would an option perhaps be to have him play say the game mostly the full game (with game time monitored) and then if there was a short turnaround/midweek game he be a super sub off the bench. I'd even say if we lost someone in the first minute that we use him extremely sparingly and unleash him at key points in the match. -
A point that Goodwin made in that article is a good one, Burgess has experience with tight turnarounds and condensed fixtures. The premier league is such a crammed fixture during December and having that knowledge of how to approach it could be key.
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Interesting looking at that list because people on here often bemoan the fact we give away players for peanuts. If he got his foot (and probably more importantly his head) right Hogan is the only one I’d really happily have back. Howe as well maybe but he’s not something we desperately need. Watts maybe as well for a chuckle! ?
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I still believe Gus can get back to his 2018 form and beyond, if he does then he could enter elite territory. Oliver could (and I think should) get there to be an elite player but he's got to stop rushing things, he's quicker than he gives himself credit for and he really needs to be able to take that little pause to sum up kicks rather than blazing away. Too early to pin Kozzie and Jacko into the elite potential category, they both have the talent to be anything but with our track record of developing players...who knows. Bennell if he's able to get fit is definitely in elite territory, but getting and staying fit is his biggest challenge. We may be biased but I really do feel like Gawn is elite in his role. Just as you'd say Dusty is elite in his role, it's what you just him on and who you judge him against. If you put Max up against the best ruckmen to have played the game he would stack up if not beat them, and I personally still hold the ruck position as an important part of team balance.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
Pates replied to Tinks's topic in Melbourne Demons
That is massive if he's able to stay fit. Should they go ahead with the carnival style season where it's more regular games I think we will have to accept he can't keep up with that and may need to miss the mid-week games. I imagine the fact that there hasn't been any footy has made him temper his rehab a bit to make sure he doesn't rush anything, it could end up being the best thing for him (and hopefully us!). -
This was a really tough one for me, I went for Jonesy but only just. They are arguably very similar players in their background and both worked their butts off to get where they are. They also have the respect of the competition for digging their heels in and being leaders when no one else wanted to stand up and be counted. I was glad to hear on the Dee-brief podcast the Junior doesn't hold ill will towards the club, I think most fans weren't happy about how things went down with him being push out, particularly given our lack of experience and leaders at the time. The only way I can rationalise it is that we had quite a few older players limp to the end of their careers and the club didn't want to have that happen in him as well. The irony being they ended up doing something far worse by pushing him to another club (and GWS at that! ?).
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Really happy for him, like Bennell he could be someone that actually benefits from this lockdown.
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I suspect the coronavirus is going to give the world all sorts of opportunities to almost reboot things the way they see fit. Rather than the old soft changeover period companies (and sports) could well take the chance to enforce sudden change on the back or reviews due to the virus. I can see the AFL putting in significant rule changes such as less players out of the field, shorter quarters being a permanent change, less players on the main list, perhaps midweek fixtures similar to soccer, and those are the first ones off the top of my head. The world we come back to in footy alone could be quite different, let alone what governments will change.
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Yep sorry, I hate losing to the Saints (there's one friend I have that just can't help but be smug about it), that one cut extremely deep for the pure stupidity of it.
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The Saint's when we kicked that goal to be in front with 30 seconds to go, Maxxy did perfect tap straight down the throat of the Saints on ballers, long ball, goes out the back of the pack and takes a 90 degree bounce straight into the path of Montagna. Can't remember what year it was but we didn't flood the defense (back when you could do that), in fact I think it took to when the ball was being bounced that the forwards realised they didn't need to be there.
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I was initially a bit skeptical about any footy being worth it this year, but I have to say even if this were an asterisk year I feel the fans would get behind the idea of a lightening premiership style tournament/season to have something to look forward to. Maybe it won't be held in the same regard as regular years but at the same time the team that's able to raise the premiership trophy at the end of all this madness will be able to say that they were able to rise above it all.
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Former Dees Assistant Jennings Wants To Scrap VFL
Pates replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
With a reduction in list numbers and perhaps the thoughts of the AFL becoming separate from the VFL, maybe another option as a feeder competition is a reduced format of the game at reserve level. Shorter quarters, less players out on the field (incidentally a rule change I would not be against for the AFL), something closer to a scratch match to keep the players match fit. -
We were doing that for a long time between 2007 and 2013 (arguably before that as well). I remember there were years that we were firmly down the bottom of the ladder, looking like we'd be beaten by VFL teams and still paying 100% of the cap.
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Former Dees Assistant Jennings Wants To Scrap VFL
Pates replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
I'd very much like to see a return to the reserves competition but I don't know how that will happen given everything that has gone on with the coronavirus and tightening of the screws. Carlton dumping their VFL team so unceremoniously (and frankly with a lot of disrespect) could be the first domino to fall in the AFL no longer having VFL/WAFL/SANFL affiliates, but I was really please that Melbourne actually went to opposite direction and said they would be sticking by Casey. I think a reserves/2nds competition is needed, nothing can truly simulate playing in match conditions against players that are quite happy to smash their opponent into the ground. How this happens post COVID-19 will be anyone's guess. -
We’ve thrown a lifeline to Harley, given KK a chance, kept persisting with AvB. We can’t keep on recruiting players with bodies that need fixing. I wish him all the best, can’t help but be a little concerned for him though. He’s got his whole life ahead of him.
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GAME 5: Demonland's Best/Favourite Demon 1988-2020 - Gawn vs Moloney
Pates replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
Gawn easily, but I reckon Moloney could’ve been a great for us. I look back at the way the club shot itself in the foot in the Bailey/Neeld period and I can’t help but think about how many careers were adversely affected by it. -
While I definitely feel like that period we shot ourselves in the foot plenty of times against lower teams it was also a classic case of missing that ingredient you can’t actually plan/prepare for: luck. We seemed to always lose players towards the end of the season that we were critical to our chances. We definitely choked on a golden chance to finish top 4 that year though.
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I'm a Furphy fan, it's not a special beer but it goes back easy enough and doesn't break the bank. I'm happy they've got on board and the club should be congratulated for continuing to bring in support.
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His 100th goal turned the momentum, I was young but I definitely remember Hawthorn responded the better from it. I also remember the emotions coming from a lot of people, as I said I was young so I don't think I fully understood what was happening but I could feel it for sure. Best Melbourne games I can remember are the 2000 Carlton prelim final and the 2002 Adelaide final (which I still have trouble figuring out how we lost). EDIT I just had a quick flick through the youtube video turns out our boys came back a bit after it! Ah the memories of a 10 year old back then! ?
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Watching Hotter Than Hell right now, Craig Smoker. That's pretty obscure! ?
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Watching Hotter Than Hell right now and something than I've found interesting is the way the boys sang the song post match, a lot slower and clearer! I don't know whether it was a product of 2018 being the first time the team was belting out the song on a (semi) regular basis but they sure sang it a lot faster. ?♂️
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARLEY BENNELL
Pates replied to Tinks's topic in Melbourne Demons
Matty Lloyd and Ross Lyon went through players who could possible benefit from the Coronavirus lock down and delay of the season, Daniher was the first one they mentioned but they talked at length about Bennell. Lyon mentioned that they’d been in touch and that the word from him was he was getting good distance into his legs. Always want to take these sorts of things with a grain of salt but that’s really great to hear. Lyon also said he was in regular contact with him which I think is great, can only be a good thing having another friendly face (or voice at the moment) in Melbourne. -
If done with intent it could well work, if the idea is to get the ball in quickly to a certain location within the forward line and the forward structure matched that then yes I think it could be a workable tactic (not one I’d personally go for but yes a deliberate tactic). If the tactics are to look for and hit up leads then our midfield is barely even coming close to doing that.