binman

You seem to have got this one wrong Saty. To your (short) list it would appear you can add TMac, Lewis, Harmes and Neal Bullen with Omac not clear

G'day punters. My best was Gailo Chp so will have to find another. Best Bet: Shillelagh Best value: Shillelagh Best longshot (each way): Supido Lay of the day: kalemantari Good luck

100% agrre. I understand the knocks on his disposal but he is a definite best 22 lock in this side. It is a discussion point as to whether people believe he should a lock or not but i j have no doubt at all that Goodwin has him as a lock. And for what its worth i agree with Goody (who i guess knows a thing or two about football). His ability to win contested ball and clear congestion is critical for us. He is a big strong mid, a type that goody and Roos before him favour (look at Oliver 6'2 in the old, Maynard is big, Hogan when he;s there, trac, viney is a bull - even salem is a stocky little bugger)'. And whilst his disposal can be iffy it can also be excellent. I love the the penetration he can get of one step and he has good hands in traffic. I also like he has an eye for a goal

If he kicks 5 he will puttin' on the Fritsch.......

I understand the angst about the influence of gambling on footy (and fully support the idea of banning all advertisement for it). But one thing it is good for is an assessment tool stripped of emotion and subjectivity. Money talks. Sportsbet currently has us at 1.80 to make the eight. That is pretty short. Under even money (a coin toss is even money).

Just a joke ding. Not very funny one i'll admit. A Demonland in joke if you will. That said ask the bloody questions! By the by i like Jnr Mac. I think i'll use it.

Great get fellas. Please ask him how highly he rates tmacs younger brorher and if he thinks the two macs are similar

Speaking of value, i know this is a horse rac8ng thread but Melbourne is currently 2.25 against the cats. That is brilliant value. If i was framing that market i would have us slight favs at about 1.80. Might have to have a go at that (and perhaps also over 39.5) and unlike futures in racing there is no risk of us not starting!

No. In that scenario better to anchor redzel (assuming you really think its going to win) and avoid the temptation to go wide in the other races. Lets say you had redzel as an anchor and had say only two in the other for $40 you get the quaddie 5 times. It might only pay $80 but you get $400. You might also put a small saver on a horse in redzels race to cover redzel getting rolled (like the redkirk warrior example - a horse i love as i backed it in tge Newmarket last year) But most people would spend their $40 by something like 2, 5 and 4 in the non ancor legs. And at best double their money. The tab love it. Much better value to be had to anchor a horse that is say 2.70 - 3.00 as usually there is a horse at similar odds that most quaddie punters can't resist putting in.

Dixie blossoms had the rating to overcome the negatives in its form i didn't like. Good win. As i have said we put our bets on in the morning and i work my stake out around the price it is then. She was $4 at 11am. Came right in. With quaddies sometimes going one out with a really short fav can mean its hard to get value, particularly when horses near the top of the market win the other legs . It can better to take a punt on a shortish horse rather than a raging fav you like in a small field. Or else else take the short fav and don't go too wide in rhe other legs and try and get it a few times .

Did you pick rimraam or the other one? Rimraam was terrific value. Good get. The early quaddie at Flemington was like Sydney's usually are. Small fields in first few legs with one staying race. My mate who I bet with hates quaddies (and all exotics bar thise in the big four races for that matter) because of the takeout and he figures it us better long term just to put more on tgecwinners. And with good reason. We never get them. But I was super confident in those first three legs.. went wide obviously in the last, a race that was diabolical and I out in every horse I marked as a chance. You have have at least one stand out to get 100% (who wants 5%?).

At Flemington got Nomotaj, Aloft, Hear the Chant and Flippant and snagged the early quaddie (taking Hear the Chant and Aloft one out, Oregon Day and Flippant in the third leg and 10 horses in the last leg - i actually watched the third leg last, having missed that race. Fun because Oregon Day and Flippant were the only chances 200 out). I also snagged the trifecta in the 8th boxing up 3 horses ( i backed Crystal dreamer and i'm Wesley and thought the latter was going to win). In Sydney i got the Winx trif x 5, Dixie Blossoms and Osborne Bulls and in Morphetville got the etta james Master of Art quinella. Top day.

You're probably right on big Danny Hughes but he did make All Australian in 1988 and won the bluey in 1985

Some good points PD. Agree on the importance of an elite defender and Lever is not far away from being a true A grader. He has huge upside because i suspect he will push himself to improve throughout his career. A great get. I have been a huge dees fan since the mid seventies and agree that this is the best in my time. In addition to an elite defender to have chance of winning a flag in the modern era teams need 10-12 decent players capable of playing in he middle and at least 2 of them have to legitimate A graders. We have never had that in the time i have supported the dees. Wes till don't quite yet but Oliver and trac will get there and Viney gives so much of himself he almost gets in that group by dint of effort. Add gawn and we have the makings of a premiership midfield. The other piece of the puzzle is Hogan. I find it amazing that he seems to have dropped a little in the collective imagination. he is a star, pure and simple and the best forward we have had since Ox fist few years. Interesting comment that we have not had an elite defender since the 70s. I disagree, though acknowledge it is debatable. I think Gary Hardeman was elite. Steven Icke was probably not in that top class by the time he came to the dees (as a forward) but he was terrific at the dees. And Sean Wight and Danny Hughes, if not elite were not too far off it.

I had a huge day. Six straight out winners, a good trifecta (the 8th iin melb), a good quinella (in Adelaide) and the early quaddie in melb. Top day.

Well my confidence in the first half of the day has been well placed - at least at Flemington. No winners at randwick as of yet but backed the first four winners at Flemington and nailed the early quaddie. Twice. I love days when you are up early because the stress of losing is taken away. Top wins by Aloft and Hear the Chant, which were both great odds.

I backed Spin. Thought he'd get there

Are you Dermot Brererton?

G'day punters. Had to get a train from Bairnsdale today so had plenty of time to do my form very thoroughly. I'm reasonably confident for the first half of the day but things get harder as the day goes on, particularity at Flemington. That said not as hard as the last 3 weeks. I thinks there are some good bets, some horses that are too short and because of that some value. I'm going to add another category - lay of the day. Best bet: Aloft Best value: Frolic Bets long shot (each way): Flemington Race 5 no 14 La Belle Jude Lay of the day: can't split Santos and Alizee Good punting

2 really

I think it is like a 12 angry men scenario (but in reverse ie in the film it was the good guy holding out). There is one jurist holding out and refusing to acknowledge the obvious. TMacs younger brother is going to be a very good player. That is plain to see. The jurist holding out will soon get past their confirmation bias and so the jury is due back any minute. Nothing like his brother? Well apart from the fact they have almost identical career trajectories (even drafted at the same number), both about the same weight and height, both debuted at at a young age and are both key position defenders (until mid of last year obviously) you're right he is nothing like his brother. As evidenced by the Player Statistics Comparison at the same age shows. Not. Player Statistics Comparison Oscar McDonald Name Tom McDonald Melbourne Demons Team Melbourne Demons Defender Position Defender, Forward 37 Career Games 126 North Ballarat Rebels Origin North Ballarat March 18, 1996 Date of Birth September 18, 1992 21yr 11mth Age Turned 21 in 2013 196cm Height 194cm 100kg Weight 100kg 2014 National Draft Last Drafted In 2010 National Draft Round 3, Pick #53 Last Draft Position Round 3, Pick #53 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Melbourne Demons 2017 Stats for Season 2013 20 Games 17 9.6 Kicks Per Game 8.3 5.8 Handballs Per Game 7.9 15.4 Disposals Per Game 16.2 5.4 Marks Per Game 4.2 0 Goals Per Game 0 0 Behinds Per Game 0.1 1.6 Tackles Per Game 2.0 0 Hitouts Per Game 0.2 0.9 Inside 50s Per Game 0.5 0 Goal Assists Per Game 0.1 0.7 Frees For Per Game 0.4 0.8 Frees Against Per Game 0.7 5.0 Contested Possessions Per Game 4.9 10.3 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 10.9 12.2 Effective Disposals Per Game 12.5 79.2% Disposal Efficiency % Per Game 77.2% 2.0 Clangers Per Game 1.9 0.5 Contested Marks Per Game 0.5 0 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 0 0.4 Clearances Per Game 0.3 2.7 Rebound 50s Per Game 3.9 8.0 One Percenters Per Game 7.7 0 Bounces Per Game 1.0 92.2 Time On Ground % Per Game

Out of interest how do you smack a botty from a great height (there's a phrase i would never thought i'd ever be writing - probably best not to google it, at least at work)? With long arms?

The Netflx model depends on having subscribers numbered in the many millions. According to this site Netflix had, in the fourth quarter of 2017 $117.58 million streaming subscribers worldwide. And i don't think they're making a profit yet, in large part becasue of the billions they are spending on developing their own content. The gamble is that they eventually they will have, say 300 million subscribers. I guess a sports streaming site could replicate that but are they going to pay rights for AFL in a global market? On progress i was amazed to learn Netflix started of as a mail order DVD company

fair point

He is also good by hand. Makes smart decisions and has a knack with his kicks and handballs of not only finding players in space but also putting it to their advantage so they can run onto the ball rather than have to stop and wait. So important and a skill surprisingly few seem to have. Also a critical skill in our game plan that involves chains of handballs and sweeping the ball forward.