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We'll i don't think that is true this year. We will get FTA exposure for this game and it is one that is likely to rate well, particularly given the thriller last year down there (how many times will we see 2EES goal in the pre game coverage? And by the sounds of the orchestrate leak we will get plenty of plumb FTA night games this year. Lets see on that front but given where we have come from in terms of coverage i would suggest we are winning the battle for exposure.

That's frustrating we have to play them there. Means I likely won't go. We better get a second game at the g (I'm sure we will). The upside is that game will FTA

Agree

On the NT games i had thought bubble. Would it possible to play those games back to back? Say fly to the Alice on the Friday, play Saturday, then spend the week in the NT before playing in Darwin the following Saturday. Use Alice as training base and do all the community stuff during the week between games. i understand routine is super important and there would be logistical challenges but they exist for both games already. And in terms of routine they fly up on the Wednesday or Thursday i think to do community stuff so they already a it out of wack. Might help with recovery as less travel would be required and could be pumped up in the NT as the Demon week.

Bingo

I'd like to know if my assumption they will put a premium on foot skills and outside run in this draft period is correct. He is probably unlikely to answer that question directly (or give a one word yes or no answer)so perhaps the question could be are we at the stage of filling needs (as opposed to best available) and if so what are those needs. He might well say they will aim for both. Fritter was arguably the best available last year at that pick and absolutely met a need. A fantastic selection that they obviously targeted. On fritter, he will be huge for us next year as he will have a second afl preseason under his belt and with may in the side and lever back he will surely play high half forward, where he belongs. Having him kicking regularly inside 50 will improve our entries enormously and this combined with his sure hands and accuracy kicking for goal will go a long way to offset the goals we will miss from Hogan.

Bingo

Well I hope being a bloody good kick is #4

You must be a plumber

Yep. It's true of the whole team as well. I expect in the draft we will target players with excellent disposal skills, with some pace who can play a link, outside role. Obviously don't grow on trees so the recruiting team will have to show their talent spotting skills again. Maynard fits the goody mould, he's a Melbourne person. Hard at it, fierce, team first and super competitive. But he does indeed lack polish, specifically with his kicking. He's not overly quick either. You'd think he is competing with Oliver, Brayshaw and viney as an inside mid. So up against it. But like the selection of smith goody has shown a preparedness to back such players in so he will get his chance.

Totally. Shots me

Do we know when they will announce the fixture? i have to say i love getting that first look at the fixture. Its a great chance to look into the future and see what days what life will revolve around!

Any Friday night game is gold for the club. The friday night game is not just important for FTA exposure during the game it also means all the radio pre game build up across all stations and then on the Saturday all the footy radio stations do a reviw of the game. Great for the club, sponsors and most of all fans. We are a popular side, that will push for the flag, plays an exciting brand and until we win a flag will enjoy the support of other club's fans and neutrals. As result I reckon we will get 3-4 Friday night games which would be a great result

Agree, his kicking was much improved. took less risky options, but didn't eliminate the risky kick all together. Which speaks to better decision making, which i suspect is what the club told him to work on at Casey.

The reason i put up the stats for May and Omac at comparative stages was to highlight that like May did Omac is likely to improve significantly over the next say 2-3 seasons ad n is well on track to becoming one of the better big defenders. Frosty has some upside perhaps but not as much and he is certainly unlikely to get too much stronger. on disposal the DE rating is always going to be higher for players playing deep back as they do a lot of short crosses and kicks to unmanned players. Mids are more likely to have take riskier kicks, as is Hiiberd who often goes long to contest. I guess you argue Frosty plays a similar role to Hibberd so maybe his DE is ok. But turnovers are the real issue. One more per game than OMac is a lot given turnovers from defenders often result in scoring chances for the oppo. But as i have said i don't think Frosty is competing with omac for a spot. His competition is Lever, May and Hibberd (and possibly Hunt). Frost's advantage over OMas is he is stronger (though that will change) giving him first crack at the biggest opposition forwards, like Hawkins. But in future May will almost certainly get those players leaving OMac on the second forward.

Sorry. Didn't see yours

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I was at that game and he was completely knocked out. Looked pretty serious actually. He and the club were lucky it was not more serious. File under 'what were they thinking'and/or 'what could go wrong???'

Rhyming slang?

Me too. But it could be because gluten cross contamination is an ever present threat

Yes, you're right about the elimination final - i had somehow (perhaps conveniently) forgotten that. Pretty sure Omac got Roughehaed, but he is certainly not the power he was was and is pretty slow thses days which suits Omac. You are spot on though as we now have a big group of defenders, across multiple roles, to choose from. it was great to hear may talk about being keen to be part of an elite back line.

He got hawkins for a quarter. I don't think he got franklin, bu could be wrong. And pretty sure Omac got Roughead. And Kennedy toweled him up.

A good example of the problem of taking stats in isolation. For example by that logic Frost is a better one on one defender than May. But that's not the case. One mitigating factor is Omac played in more losing matches than Frosty, and in those games our pressure dropped off and oppo kicks inside 50 were better. The same issue applies to May obviously. Another is that as FND points out for most of the season Omac got the oppos best and biggest forward. And performed well in most of those contests, despite giving away age, strength, weight and experience. Next year he will stronger and heavier, in fact he will keep getting bigger for the next two seasons, whereas Frosty is probably as big as he is going to get. Omac is still in a kid in terms of the role he plays. His peak is 2 to 3 years away. On that point here is a statistical comparison of May and Omac and the same stage of their career (Omac's last season and May's stats for his 2014 season): 2018 Stats for Season 2014 25 Games 19 7.6 Kicks Per Game 10.5 4.0 Handballs Per Game 2.8 11.6 Disposals Per Game 13.4 3.8 Marks Per Game 3.8 0 Goals Per Game 0 0 Behinds Per Game 0.1 1.2 Tackles Per Game 2.3 0 Hitouts Per Game 0.2 0.8 Inside 50s Per Game 1.1 0 Goal Assists Per Game 0.2 0.2 Frees For Per Game 0.8 1.0 Frees Against Per Game 1.1 4.3 Contested Possessions Per Game 4.9 7.0 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 7.6 9.2 Effective Disposals Per Game 10.0 79.3% Disposal Efficiency % Per Game 74.6% 2.1 Clangers Per Game 2.8 0.7 Contested Marks Per Game 0.5 0 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 0 0.1 Clearances Per Game 0.3 3.1 Rebound 50s Per Game 4.3 6.3 One Percenters Per Game 10.3 0 Bounces Per Game 0.7 96.0 Time On Ground % Per Game 95.5 I don't think Frost is competing with OMac for a spot and if he is he in a spot of bother because Omac is ahead. I like Frosty but his disposal is too unreliable and as result his risk reward ratio is too weighted towards risk. Which is an issue for him given the way he plays.

At the risk of sounding stupid, why?

Classic. I could actually imagine mark neeld, saying to a brand new recruit, yet to a play a game: 'you have done nothing for this club, zero, nada, ZILCH. You need to lift your game and harden the truck up'