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Fair points. But he ain't AA elite. Look at the seven grand final winners since 2016. Every premier, with the exception of West Coast, had AA big bodied mids. The dogs had bont. The tigers had dusty in his pomp. And cotchin for good measure. The Eagles didn't have an AA big mid, but Shuey, who won the Norm Smith, made the squad twice. And Sheed - also six foot plus, was a pretty handy back up. We had tracc and clarry. And the cats had Selwood and Dangerfield. So recent history suggests to win a flag team need at least one, preferably two elite big mids (ie heavy, strong and at least six foot). Brodie might get there - though personally I don't think so. But he's not there yet.

That augurs well for their future, assuming of course one of those players becomes an elite mid. But it won't help them much this season. But perhaps they are prepared to plautue for a year - which would not be unreasonable given their investment in Jackson and the fact they have a young list.

I agree. When I say I think they might struggle, I didn't mean to say they would be hopeless. I would be very surprised if they don't make the 8 - they are well coached, were super fit last year and have quality players. What I meant to say is they will struggle to make top 4 and I don't think they're a premiership contender. And not just because they lack a cripps or tracc. Their forward line also lacks punch. By the by, I predicted preseason last year that freo would be the bolter. I thought they would finish top 4. So I've got no bias against them as such. I just think they didn't address their biggest needs in the trade period. And i agree with Lampers analysis of their trade period - a net loss. Most concerning for them, given their forward line was already a worry, is they didn't replace lobb with an equivalent player. Lobb is inconsitent, but when on he kicks goals. But even when not kicking goals, like tmac is for us, he was super important structurally for freo. Took the best key defender, ran up and down the wing to provide a marking option and if he couldn't mark brought the ball to ground - which meant their small forwards (which is a strength of theirs) could go to work. Jackson will provide some of that, but as dees fans know he is not a natural forward. I have little doubt he will improve his forward craft. But he won't be at lobb's level this season.

Lack an ELITE big bodied midfielder. We have two.

That's my take too. I think laurie's biggest challenge at the dees is locking down a position. He has too many players ahead of him to crack a senior game as an inside mid. Dunstan can't even get a game as an inside mid. Half back is a bit better, but mcvee has jumped ahead of him it would appear, and of course bowey and Salem are both locks. Small forward? Not sure he is quick enough. In our game plan, there are a number of roles that must be really hard to thrive in. I'm thinking of the half forward roles spargs and nibbler play. And, for want of a better word, the utility role that JJ, sparrow and harmes play (ie bit of time in the middle, push forward, push back, some time at half forward to. At this stage, and really it is still relatively early days for him, I can only see Laurie getting a game playing either the half forward role or the utility role. And for either role he will need a seriously good tank. There's still time - leys see how he goes this year. But he might end up having to go to another club to get regular senior games.

Doing something right doesn't equate to top 4 level - which is surely their goal this year (and was my point ie to get go that level they need an ELITE big bodied mid). I suspect if you looked at last year's ladder at the end of the home snd away, the order would look pretyy simiar as that for contested and clearances (the blues might be an oulier). It they want to be a serious flag contender, sixth in contested ball and clearances ain't gonna cut it. They need to be top 2 or 3 in those stats.

Which is one reason I think they might struggle. Like last season, the best midfields will monster theirs. They need a big bodied mid somewhere near as good Fyfe in his Brownlow year. Putting so many eggs in the Jackson basket meant having to settle for a player at O'Meara's level to try and plug the gap.

Yep. But can't see him being better. Omeara - at his third club and managing chronic injury - is at the back end of his career. He is a long way from the elite big bodied mids like cripps et al that serious flag contenders need. Mundy was still playing at a really high level last season- which was remarkable given his age Arguably only Brayshaw was as important. I suspect freo will be thrilled if O'Meara can match Mundy's 2022 output. By the by, i watched the first half of freo's sim. Not sure how he went in the second half, but omeara was underwhelming in the first half.

I'm not convinced about that. A bit will depend on how much time Fyfe spends in the midfield because they really lack big bodied mid in the Trac, Oliver, Bontempelli, Cripps mold. Such players have become critical because they win so many 50-50 contests and provide the option of not having to send an extra to each stoppage - or in our case even having one less mid at stoppage. They are really going to miss Mundy for this very reason.

All excellent points. There is another important element - sexual assault and harassment (and of course family violence) is overwhelmingly men perpetrating it against women. And it occurs in the context of the fundamental drivers of sexual harassment and assault (and family violence) - gender inequality and the belief that a man is entitled to exercise power and control. Is there an issue with the power balance here? Maybe, as Steph is the captain. But it is not harassment if her teammate has no issue with Stpeh's behavior. I note that to hopefully avoid the silly whataboutisms that so often come up in such discussions - 'but, but women use violence and sexually harass too!'. Whataboutisms that completely ignore the fact that gender inequality and the belief that a man is entitled to exercise power and control over women and children drive sexual harassment (and family violence). De Goey sexually harassed/assaulted the woman because he felt entitled to (and please, spare me the whataboutisms that the woman in the photo apparently said she was fine with his behaviour).

He'll play i reckon. They will want him to build some momentum ahead of a round one selection. My guess is of the young players, JVR , Chandler, McVee, Bowey and Turner will all play. And maybe Verell (to cover maxy?), Laurie AMW and Woey. Hibbo, Jordon and Tomo all to play. Fritsch too if right. If i';m close to the mark with those guesses that's say 8-10 players to come in. They will probably play a mega extended bench (coxz last week was the dress rehearsal) so maybe 6 players who played the first four periods against the saints will have to come out. My guess on those 6 players are: Lever (injured, so no brainer), Maxy (practicing the break they flagged they want to give him during the season?), May, Tracc, Viney and Brown. With limited minutes for Langdon, Oliver and Kozzie.

Short answer - number 2. But only because in Kozzie (assuming he is playing more midfield minutes), Mcvee, Hunter, Salem and Bowey we have five reasonably high possession players who can be trusted to hit high risk kicks to the corridor. My tip is this season the Pies will find it a lot harder to hit those corridor targets this season because opposition teams will put a lot more work into the players they use to hit corridor targets - Nick Daicos (who apparently has been training with the mids) being the key player to blunt. And so will struggle to score as freely - and will cough up more goals though turnover. Net result - more lost games.

Maybe, though Goody obviously doesn't agree. Be that as it may there is no chance selecting him last in the season was about trying to convince Jackon to stay.

Absolutley no way they were still trying to convince him stay anywhere near the end of the season. The decision was made mid season, and in all likelihood well before then - hence goody and key leaders talking to Grundy mid season. They played him because we needed a second ruck. Pure and simple.

On Jackson, I'm firmly of the view we are a better team with Grundy in it than with Jackson - at least for the next 2-3 seasons (Jackosn will be crazy good when he hits his peak in his mid 20s, still four years away). So, i wish the young fella luck - and i hope he enjoys watching the Dees leave Freo in our wake. And doesn't struggle too much with regret. Such a negative and exhausting emotion. I also hope he copes ok with moving to freo with the expectation of spending more of his time in the ruck than he did at the dees (coz he is on record as saying that's where he most enjoys playing) - only to play the exact same role as he did at the dees - a forward and back up ruck to a clear number one ruck. He will also have to cope with the irony of knowing if he had stayed at the dees he would likely have got way more ruck time given the dees want to give Maxy much more of a chop out this season - not to mention the chance of a adding a second flag to his resume,

This game was our serious dress reherseal for round one, just as was the case in 2021 and 2022. I doubt we will have a full strength team next week, and they will probably try some different things eg some new set plays, different positions, some younger players. Meaning it was a bit of a blow to Jordan and Hibbo. From the saints game, the only changes I can envision is harmes out (who did look.a bit rusty - though in his defence it must be hard playing that utility position - same goes for sparrowwho also had a quiet game). Jordan or maybe hibbo in (Gus could play more as a mid and hibbo takes his spot). Given his versatility, jordon could be 23rd man.

I was thinking much the same thing about koz. He's a brilliant field kick. In addition to good technique, he has great vision and the confidence to take on difficult options, so can really set up dangerous scoring chains. If he can average 15 plus possessions we get a lot more value out of his field kicking. Hunter is an even better kick, and also creates dangerous scoring chains. He has that ability the best left footers have to exploit the split second of space lefties get when the defender instinctively shapes to cover a right footer. I think Mcvee will be in the round one team, and hopefully can keep his spot when Salem comes back. He looks class. Fantastic, fluid technique, calm, makes good decision - and hits targets. Bowey looks in great shape, makes excellent decisions and has a case to being the most reliable kick in the team, certainly up to 35-40 metres. With Salem, that's 5 elite kicks in our starting 22, who get 15 plus possessions, reliably hit those crtical 25-40 metre kicks, have tricks and set up rolled gold scoring opportunites. That translates to kicking more goals through quality assists and fewer scoring chains breaking down with junk turnovers (thst often gift the opposition a scoring opportunity). The other factor is those five players almost certainly have goody's approval to take on risky kicks to the corridor. That's obviously the best spot to enter 50 from, so three or four more kicks thst hit the target in the corridor makes us so much more dangerous. The four playing all hit corridor targets against the saints, and I'd be guessing collectively were involved in a lot of our scoring chains. Good times.

I watched the first q of the freo crows game. Jackson played pretty well. As wxpected Darcy was number one ruck, but Jackson probably played about 40% in the ruck. Did some nice things when the ball hit the ground. Played forward mostly when not rucking. Marked on the chest leading out from full forward. And from 30 kicked gun barrel straight for a goal. Which was when the penny dropped he was no longer a Demon player!

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Exactly. Lyon, Malthouse, to a lesser extent Buckley, and arguably Roos, had an identifiable game plan - variation on an ultra defence first, bugger all offence and boring opposition and neutral fans to death. Can Lyon develop a modern system? Even if he can, it will take st least a season. And the list is got holes everywhere, not to mention some injury concerns.

100% bowey is in our best 22. For one thing he is one of of only a handful if elite kicks we have. And he has footy smarts and plays that critical half back distributor role super well. Though needs someone on the other side. Would/will be salem. Suspect it will be mcvee round one (which would make for 2 young half back flankers). His dropping last year felt like a development thing to me, perhaps to temind him AFL is not all about rocking up and winning.

I don't think it will be our best team. It wasn't last year, or the year before. In both years we had our best 22 on the first practice match. Unless there are injuries I suspect we saw the round one team today (with the exception of jvr). Melksham might be an in perhaps.but Chandler would probably have to come out, and I'd prefer Chandler.

I have to say it was impossible watching at the ground to work out what sort of game plan Lyon is running with. And they looked pretty bloody average.

Rebounding half back seemed to be role. I suspect he'll take Salem's place and role - with bowey on the other side. Rivers is a lock down back, so not sure where that leaves hibbo. Gus played back today, so if he goes into the middle hibbo could come in.

100% agree on all three. It looks like Mcvee has Salem's spot for now. Nice kicking action and finds targets. The team really got around him early when he hit up a forward with a sweet hit that set up a [censored] on goal. Hunter's kicking inside 50 is exactly what we need. In addition to setting up scores, he creates a problem for oppos trying to bypass Langdon. I love that both have shaved heads. I think a key factior in how much Grundy improves us will be how well he and maxy combine. It might take the first handful of games to build their chemistry. If/when they click they will be a formidable combo given their size, ruck craft and incredible fitness. That combo is an improvement on maxy and Jackson. So that's a win right there.