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Idiots or just plain victim mentality? Not that you can't be both. Nice one Fifty 5. But you're throwing seed on a lot of barren ground.

You can see it here. https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/S/Sam_Weideman.html He's been given good experience over three years with consecutive games. He's just young and some supporters are either just impatient or can't judge talent.

Let me get this straight. You said the umpiring was "rigged". Then you said it was mind boggling that it was fair. And this after saying in the OP " and (I)still can’t comprehend how we were awarded frees, or at least not penalized for many blatant errors". I know you've now opted out of responding but how do you reconcile these comments? On the other hand, perhaps I can see why you have run away. We had a few go our way on Sunday, they had a few go their way. "Rigged"? You can't be serious.

We AreThe Champions”. Queen.

I don't think that's right Bin. In that era he was regarded as a remarkably tough footballer who took the culture of the game to its limits but not beyond except on a few occasions. There wasn't much talk when he flattened Smith or Giles and virtually none when he flattened McMullin. Any talk was all over in a day or two. It was an era when the sort of thing Matthews did was fairly common and whilst Matthews did it more often he wasn't considered a thug. And he was hugely admired for his unbelievable football ability. He and Carey are the two best footballers I've ever seen play. Neither are particularly admirable people although people change and I think Matthews has. His interview with Mike Sheahan is very good and a good insight into the man. And those suggesting he was a coward off the field are kidding themselves IMO. If you want another insight into Matthews watch Pert's interview with Sheahan. It's a fantastic story.

I'm not in the camp that says we need an extra KPD but even if I was could you please tell me how we get him and the reasons Carlton would trade him? The thread title refers to "realistic".

Who was held over?

It seems that the word “realistically” should be removed from the title.

There are tackles and tackles. It would be interesting to ask someone like Misso about the relative impact of the different sorts of games. I know I was told that game like Casey's on Saturday are one's where you don't tend to get injuries.

I don't know. They did a lot of crashing and bashing but no running.

Did he take any responsibility himself?

That's bad news for Keilty, Petty and Frost. I would have thought there was no shortage of talls KPB on the list.

Sorry, my mistake. I should have said, "why are you quoting WCE supporters views to back up your view" when you continually tell is it's the coaches that count, not the supporters. And how do you support your stance when the WCE coaches, whose views you always say should be respected, voted Gaff their best player in a year where they finished third on the ladder. To finish third on the ladder a team needs multiple good players and the coaches, you know, the one's who's view we should respect, thought Gaff the best during the year. And to finish third you play some good teams in tight matches where if you don't perform you lose. Clearly Gaff, as voted by the coaches, performed. It's ironic because I have some concerns but I can see the argument for taking him as a FA. But what I won't do is make things up to support my view and then not recognize I was wrong on a number of factual issues. That behaviour is the stuff of schoolyards, not those questioning your arguments and logic. Anyway enough. Like Gaff you have your strengths and weakness and these sort of discussions are not your strength.

And why are you worried by supporters view of Gaff when you continually tell us “the coaches know best”? Do WCE supporters or coaches vote in their B&F?

If you know West Coast supporters who were shocked he won a best and fairest why did you say he hadn’t won one?

Who do you want?

Third in 2016 and 11th in 2015. I couldn't be bothered looking any further so there may be others.

Unfortunately I won't get a chance to listen as I've family obligations but I'd be very interested to hear his views on targetting either Sloane or Gaff as FA this year. Who would he choose (assuming we could get either) on the assumption we could afford them. Or is there someone else he'd look at?

Can someone explain how Jetta get in our best with 10 possessions and 2 tackles in a backline that let through 20 goals? Tmac Oliver Jones Fritsch Viney Lewis

If PJ supports it I'd be amazed if the AFL didn't let it stand.

I understand the sentiment but if they override it they will do it for good reason. I'm in no position to know who would be best appointment but they got PJ right.

You can be filthy but the "AFL jobs for the boys" landed us Peter Jackson. As for being on the AFL "leash" it's been a pretty good ride so far.

How many smiley faces does one need? For that post I apologize, I thought the answer was none. But for some it would seem it's "many".

Max Gawn and Neville Jetta say hi. Just sayin.

Thank you Barry Prendergast. ?