DEE fence

29 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Hmm... I don't think the subconscious use of race in this instance is coming from the umpires.

 

Spare me, just quoting one of the milder comments I have heard over the years, or do you really think I endorse that?

@praha

This needs fixing in your index:

Beat North Melbourne

- Last win: Round 5, 2006 (14-game losing streak)

But there is another record they need to break...

I am going to Carlton vs Melbourne this week (flying in from PNG), since 2006 I have not seen a win live, I have been through a marriage and divorce (I took the ex to a terrible game with North), children, and still no win (from 2007 to 2013 I always made an effort to go to a game, but when time home is so precious, organizing to see a loss became demoralizing and stopped - Summer is by far a better time to come home). I really, really, really want the Dees to break my personal hoodoo because otherwise I am going to be the albatross and I won't want to come back for finals. Admittedly I don't travel to the G much, time of year and working outside of Australia.

25 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Nev, would find the above hilarious, he gives as good as he gets, when I talk to him though we joke about the target he has on his head, pound for pound, or kilo for kilo,  he is one of the strongest at the club, hence why he finds himself on the 'big guys' as well

Nev is stoic, without doubt, and not a sook which is obvious for all to see, It still doesn't explain to me why or justify what I think is a blind spot by officialdom. @daisycutter makes a fair point re proof, but note I use the term 'subconscious racism', because I am not arguing it is deliberate, I just honestly can't find an explanation that fits in the absence of another reason, and am looking to see what people think. I have no idea of how to get into peoples heads and prove anything one way or another, am just positing it, in the absence of a better explanation. I am happy to go with group think on whether people here think Nev gets a fair go? and if anyone else thinks he cops alot of dubious hits. If it is my bias to a player who I am a huge fan of then well, I will withdraw.

I think Nev has demonstrated outstanding durability for the heavy physical work he does, but I am really over seeing him getting whacked with little or no consequence and reckon the club should ask a question about it. Last season it was a feeling, and this season I think it is something else. Except for one free yesterday, I think Nev gets bashed from pillar to post and doesn't get the frees he deserves and that quite a few of the shots he cops have been deserving of sanction. He has had concussion issues in his history and I would hate to see him finish before his time. Now I know I'll probably get yelled down for throwing petrol on embers, but I almost think the umpsMRP/MRO have a little subconscious racism, along the lines of ' he's a black fella and can cope'. I am at a loss to explain it any other way. I don't see him as someone who gives the umpires a earful either (the occasional grumble maybe) so that he has lost friends amongst officialdom. Anyway @Fairgo4Nev I reckon.   

Happy that Patton/Watson/McCartin/Boyd are in the spotlight ATM, feels like the focus has moved away from Jesse, thankfully, the incident is now firmly in the rearview. Jesse I think has really earn't some pats on the back for dealing with all the grief thrown at him and also his body language on the field has also improved out of sight. I seriously wouldn't swap him for any of these other 4.

57 minutes ago, Lifelong Demon said:

That’s why it’s a sneakier peek...

 

search Google for “melbourne demons 2018 indigeneous guernsey” and you will see it and the link to this page. Looks like they have made the product but forgot to tell Google it’s a secret. 

It's there, well played. 

2 hours ago, Blinkybill said:

Yes, a very good candidate. 

What I don’t want to see is an external candidate come in and completely restructure the club. Jackson has done this and I think most would agree that the club, as a business, is functioning better than ever.

Certainly my experience that externals feel the need to put their fingerprints on things for the sake of it. I don't think PJ has kept to many muppets at the club, it hasn't been riven by leaks, if the said any of the three names mentioned I would be willing to place trust in that. Although that said, 30 and only marketing experience makes me nervous.

Mahoney would be my choice, (which means not much-but I feel like he communicates effectively).

30 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Sadly another player who gave his all but perhaps was too scarred from our abysmal years to make the transition when Roos joined.  Glad the club gave him the chance to try coaching before leaving entirely.

Wish him well and glad his local side is also a Demon outfit!

Agree with the love, but I never felt like he was scarred, just injured, I thought he coped with Neeld times quite well, as he was not really a millenial, must be a Tassie thing ... 

9 hours ago, Pates said:

Throw Jones and Tyson and that's batting pretty deep. 

This is not the Fab Five, If i might humbly propose we call our midfield the 'Hunters & Collectors' (eight contested ball winners, get it?), on our way to the Holy Grail, (Although somedays I think I am going to be as old as the 'Grail Knight' in the Indiana Jones film by the time we salute..) 

Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw, Hogan, Salem, Petracca, Jones and Tyson

It is GC, actually a good team for Viney to play against, reckon he can skip VFL. Jeffy needs to prove he should be there. Hunt saved by his run, Salem I read was a busted thumb (@ base)? is this correct he is going to need a few needles for that a bowman's fracture is nasty...

Weid stays, i'm tipping he will kick 3.

What I love is that normally when you try three tall fwds you get burnt by the lack of mobility.  However for us having Hogan and Tmac who are both super mobile we have created a match up nightmare for the opposition. This is only going to get better. 

1 hour ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

I love Viney, but think he should play 3/4 of a game at Casey before returning

You're probably right, but I live in hope the fittness department can weave the same magic they did with Tommy McD, is about time 4two6 didn't equal half a season..

38 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Hogan could get a week for acting and flopping to the ground.

They are cracking down on this.

He was chopped in the throat, yes he fell (but being a biased supporter) I excuse this as the force was hard enoung to justify the free he was making sure the ump saw it. I also think it is a hell of allot better than him turn around and smacking Carlisle and getting weeks. Was furious he missed though. Was still BOG.

3 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Agree ANB gives his all, but he is horribly out of form, really needs to go back to Casey and get his mojo back, as right now he looks bereft of confidence. If fit, I would select Salem over him every day of the week on the respective form they have shown this year.

Yes, but ANB for Salem or Viney? isn't Viney due back next week? Who would you choose, I feel that Viney scares opposition players (i really like that) even if Salem is a better kick and has some mongrel of his own.

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Whoops ?

if wishes were fishes 

loved winning when we were a $1.32 to win, was watching the live ladder, thought we might make 8th but didn't, thought St Kilda showed up today, however if you added up all the ifs and buts, when equalled for both sides, we were still clearly better. Yet again Petracca would have the Saints nashing their teeth. Oliver I love, but am starting to get frustrated he doesn't kick a little more, he would seriously open up other sides, with 10 more kicks per game. Hogan was strong all game, I actually struggle to think of a game he has played better, and his head space seemed much better when kicking for goal, was a Matthew Richardson (on a good day) type performance. Angus has found his mojo in a serious way, will steal Brownlow votes off Clarry this year.

My one whinge - ANB is not in the top ten, but he tries hard enough for mine, I really think there are some pretty miserable folks on here the way they chew him out, because you can't fault his effort, yes he needs to be better with his disposal, but the way he is described, you'd think he wasn't trying, and that is just not true. I can see him as being the first dropped to make way for Viney though, let's just be a little graceful for someone who is clearly a good servant of the club. Salem... hmm Harmes almost did enough to stay, Hannan looks like a threat, and both Vince and Lewis were very solid, Hunt was OK. I think Salem waits another week, then one of those just named).

As Beez said - good on Goodwin for learning the best way to play Leaver, has now played two good games in a row, he also showed why he will never be Tom McD that kick for goal was putrid.

Was wearing my Garmin today, HR didn't go past a 100 felt like we had it the whole way - that hasnt happened since i think bluetooth was invented

This is what we saw in the first year + intensity, late in the game he got a little head knock, heart in mouth moment.

6. Hogan

5. Brayshaw

4. Oliver

3. Gawn

2. Hibberd

1. Tyson

sorry jones & lewis

HOGAN BOG so far, has some competition but he's playing with a desire that is beautiful to watch. We were lucky the Saints shoot like the Somali militia. Pat TomMc the million, while the game was in the balance at the start he did some 1% things that demonstrated will.

On 5/3/2018 at 8:58 AM, beelzebub said:

 

Would Tom not be a 4 million man over 4 years ?

With newer club caps etc id say that was reasonable. 

Like houses...a Million ain't what it used to be. 

This season if he kicks 40+ off a limited pre - season I think a million a season is fair - I would wait a little to just check that the run of goals last year wasn't a fluke (I dont think it will be) if he is sub 35 goals his price stays 800-1mil

31 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

8-900 gram of MDMA as well.....

Enough for every AFL player in the country to overdose. Thought 360 last night was a bit soft, what are the chances that some of these drugs he is shifting ends up with AFL players. Cry me a river, this bloke is greedy, full stop, he will get a 4-5 year custodial sentence and do 2 at the very most. If the molly is pure then he is up for large commercial quantity (could get 8 years) but if its 'in mixture' then he just gets done for commercial quantity. Note, sentencing comments  are my own guess - not the legislated maximums. there is no good behaviour bond for this [censored]. If I was him I'd be paying one of the other bloke huge money to take the fall.

edit - Victorian sentencing manual, am not a sentencing expert, but seems a good case for a category 1 offence.

http://www.judicialcollege.vic.edu.au/eManuals/VSM/index.htm#64404.htm

7 hours ago, Skuit said:

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“Their kicking skills were absolutely deplorable,” Lyon told SEN Breakfast.

“Like, deplorable to the point we all watch footy on Sunday at 3pm and we’re all experts in our loungeroom, your phone just starts pinging and all your mates are watching the same thing and wondering whether you’re watching AFL footy.

“The players in that Melbourne side last year that we thought were going to become something, where’s Alex Neal-Bullen, where’s Jayden Hunt, James Harmes seems to have just stagnated, Dom Tyson's best footy is behind him, Petracca hasn’t lit one up for a long time and these were the sorts of blokes we thought were going to carry them.

“Clayton Oliver is their best player and doesn't kick very often, still.”

Did you agree or disagree with this?

ANB, jeez people are quick to jump on him, overall his trajectory is improving, not the 1st to be dropped by any means, am going to write a post about ANB later. 

Hunt, this was the 1st game this year where I thought he had refound his run, bombs it like a former dee Moloney and I want that to change - I think opposition will learn from Essendon mistake in giving him that run. But was thinking his game showed promising signs

Harmes is always what he has been, why the surprise?

Tyson is having a good year overall.

GAWN

JETTA

BRAYSHAW

JONES

OMAC

HIBBERD

2 hours ago, monoccular said:

One of the ABC commentators I think said that Melk and Hibberd were rejects from the drug lords:  I would see them as escapees or refugees.  Both are doing a great job after a quiet start to the season. 

Drugs Lord did not want to get did of Hibberd, Milkshake not sure, i think his best and worst are schizophrenic, and they were frustrated.

On 4/27/2018 at 6:37 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

Absolutely stoked about this! I feel he is one that'll play better and more suited to the more quicker tempo of AFL rather then the VFL..

And just quickly, I've had a bit to do with young "Spargs" and I posted this back early January this year.

 

Gday guys, on one of the training thread there's been a few doubts on young Charlie about his size and whether he can translate his ability to AFL level. Thought I'd bring this thread up and have my 2 cents worth.

 

Just on Spargo, I had a bit to do with him when he was in the under 16s bushies . I didn't bother to write anything up on him when we drafted him (lack of interest in demonland at the time) but I thought I'd post my thought a on him now. 

Goody is going to fall in love coaching this young fella, he is 18 years old going onto 25 in terms of maturity and level headed. He was driven right from the very young age to succeed in footy and make AFL. He started playing senior footy for Albury in the strong Ovens and Murray league (step below VFL) at 16 and was still running rings around former AFL players with such ease. It was tipped right from then that this kid could potentially be the next big thing despite his size. He was quick, tough as F**k, and most importantly, driven and determined to make it.

Despite being a quiet and down to earth sort of fella, he just oozes leadership on field! We played a praccy match against Bendigo once and he was captain for the day. The whole day he was barking orders, setting up midfield stoppages, encouraging teammtes, and giving direct feedback to coaching and senior officials on what was going right and wrong. He'll be in the leadership group in a couple of years. Mark my words.

Obviously being in boarding school this year I barely got time to see any of his games (injured also). But we got word back from some recruiters that if it wasn't for injury he would be top 10 without a doubt. 3 clubs had even made mentioned that if he was just a smidge taller and injury free, they had penciled him for top 5. Every club rated him and the giants were absolutely filthy when they lost first rights to him. He is a genuine talent.

If I was to compare him to someone in terms of toughness, leadership and skill? it would be Joel Selwood. He has everything that you need in terms of the culture you're trying to build and set.

Yes I've pumped up his tyres, but the biggest test for him will be the transition to AFL level. The likes of Caleb Daniel and Eddie Betts have shown that it is possible if you've got the ticker and drive to succeed. I believe young Spargo has this.

The likes of Jones, Viney, Oliver and Lewis will crave having this kid in the side running full tilt into packs and come out ball in hand.

I don't want to put too much pressure on the kid but in my honest opinion, he is an absolute beauty!

Hope that helps.

Well you get points for this! top call.