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You need to look a little harder, Bate is a good half forward. People have wanted him to be a KPF which I do not think he is however if he were playing in a side were he is the third or fourth best forward he would get the third or fourth best defender. under those conditions you would not be expecting him to win the game every week and he woul;d look much better.

Yes you are correct it is 16, this is a rare event I was "wrong"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just joking

My understanding is that GC can take up 12 uncontracted players this year. the max. is one per club. Eg. they cannot take anymore players from Adelaide This rule applies GWS next year.

I am told by AFL Vic. that the following applies to MFC players playing for Casey in the finals. (1) Casey can have a max. of 12 MFC listed players (2) A MFC player must have played a Min. of 7 games for Casey There are different rules for the likes of Collingwood and a team that has its AFL team and VFL associate playing finals in both competitions. So PJ may need to play the last game for Casey to qualify for finals, does anyone know how many he has played for Casey? He played quite a few but no idea how many!

Jaded can you tell me what the rules are re MFC players playing in Finals for Casey? Hope you can help!

He is not soft just not in the top 10 ruckman in the league. The only reason he is not playing is because they now have Jolly who is better by a fair margin.

He has a contract for next year so where that leaves him I am not sure. If I were him I would be looking for trade at year end as it would appear we have stamped Maric's papers as not good enough!

I do not think Maloney will play after being out for 4 weeks, back via Casey! That means two must come out of the remaining six. Either Johnson or Newton plays as second ruckman, my guess Newton why name him otherwise! this may be his last hurrah! and he has been playing this role very well at Casey. That leaves 1 more from Bail Mckenzie Morton Bate No forward was dropped so I think Bate misses. Interchange is then Bail Mckenzie Morton Newton.

What more is there to say. A great of the MFC. I will miss you no. 23 An excellent example of the theory that there are great player gems out there that are not picked in the main draft. You do not have to be pick no. 1 to be a 250 game player and captain of your side.

Can anyone tell me the requirments for playing finals in the VFL. i.e. How many MFC players can play ( I think the max is 12 )and is there any limits on how many AFL games excludes you from playing in finals at VFL level etc. Hope someone can help?

I have looked at it again Hightower and I struggling to find one player who would not be on it. Who do you think is out to pasture and would not be if we were playing finals?

Plus a decent set of knees!

Interesting to compare the number of players that are out for the "Season" at each club. Collingwood 1 Feemantle 1 Hawthorn 1 Bulldogs 2 Sydney 2 St. Kilda 3 Geelong 3 Kangaroos 6 West Coast 7 Adelaide 8 Port 8 Brisbane 9 Essendon 9 Demons 9 IMO You could form a view that the lower the number of serious injuries the higher you are on the ladder!

You know what Sturmmann I do not think any one has any idea if GS has approached any Melbourne Player. It is all just fanatsy, there may well have been approaches to a couple of players but only the managers would know and no manager worth his salt would be letting on at this stage. Find it very hard to believe they would be interested in Cameron Bruce he is in the twilight of his career! But how would I or anyone else know! Just wait a month and we will know.

Not a problem my Son

Never seen such much drivel on Demonland. "Softness" what a load of old cobblers. From where I sit no one who gets to be No.1 draft pick is soft. For that matter I doubt there is anyone who plays AFl that is soft. Some players are in and under types and others use their skill and finese. Go to a AFL / VFL game and stand on the fence, see, hear, and feel the physical nature of the game close up. Then tell me Watts or any one else is "SOFT". I do not believe it. Watts might be many things but SOFT! NO

I have seen him a few times this year for Casey and I think he has a future. For a young ruckman he is a fairly good mark and kick. I saw him the day Casey got belted by Williamstown and he was one of the few that I thought earned his spot. Early Days but he is the best of our ruckman after Jamar. I have not seen another young ruckman at VFL level that is better than him.

14 wins and I do not care how we get them!

I agree Daisycutter the Basketball think is cobblers. I seriously doubt he will ever be a "Barry Hall " type. That does not mean he will not be a good player it just means he may never be a crash and Bash player. I think his best chance is strength, speed,finese and a red hot go. If he does that I will be happy, 40 -50 goals a year makes you pretty good. A CPF who can achieve that will take us close to the big one!

I really really really hope you are right 'fork em"!

High Tower that is a Quiche Lorraine!

E25 he has played 2 senior games! on your scale Watts would have been flung last year!

Spot on he is not the type that wins awards just the sort who helps win games. A good grunt player that gets the ball out and makes others guys look good. Nothing flash just a gower that every team needs.

I agree with you however it is difficult to judge Maric when he almost never plays! Why not play him the last two games? Is he going to cost us a spot in the finals? He should be a replacement for Davey. If he is not picked this week after 3 goals for Casey then why does he have a contract for next year and why are we keeping him?

Hoopla I am not big fans of Maric or Cheney. But I wonder if Watts was pick 20 would he be getting such a good ride! In Maric's case how would we know if he is any good he has had one game this year, which was not as bad as Watts first three, he even stayed upright for most of the game. But he is straight out after one game!