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Not sure I understand how this works.

Hate to tell you this Dan, but the rest of us don't see those two points (just visible to you as a warning I would say)... looks like you just outed yourself and now your forum cred has been shot to pieces ;-)

But that's precisely the problem I'm having with all of this... I cannot recall seeing him openly suggest that people not go and not watch. I do recall a comment to the effect of "if it's so hard, don't put yourself through it", but that was obviously made out of frustration at the way the discussion was going and was obviously NOT a call for people to stay away.

What do you suggest they do? If people don't attend, then the club is in deeper trouble financially and those players who are giving their all (yes, there are some) will start to doubt the value in doing that.

For anyone who might be interested in something to do with the original topic, Trengove has come out saying the claims re the spa bath are rubbish: "THE CLAIM that Melbourne players were not taking their recovery session seriously following the 94-point loss to West Coast last weekend has been dismissed by Demons co-captain Jack Trengove." "...a Melbourne official said the Storm players were not present at the recovery session. Trengove said the claims were completely untrue. "I was personally there at the recovery session and I saw none of that," Trengove said when fronting the media at AAMI Park on Wednesday morning." http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2013-04-17/recovery-claims-untrue-trengove.workstation

Considering that was your 69th post it is probably appropriate that it "sucked"... I know for a fact that Satyriconhome is actively involved in the club and would be the last person to try to turn support away from the club. What is your involvement?

Go back and read your post and you might see why Nasher made the comment... seriously.

Of that list, I would love to see Van Berlo and Thomas with Le Cras as someone who could seamlessly move between the midfield and the forward line. Well...I can dream can't I?

Let's not kid ourselves... yes, this is a ridiculous article (well, unoriginal and no more enlightening than all before it), but kids like Watts will read these articles and over time will start to take note of the encouragements to seek greener pastures elsewhere so that they can taste success. That IS a cause for concern.

Elite... I suppose that's the equivalent to A+?

Are you saying that Cale Morton had...

I take it you didn't read the first page of this thread? Even the first post hinted with "Good news coming" and by post 9, it was out that he had signed a three year contract.

So I take it you are a swinging voter and a swinging supporter? Makes sense considering the content of most of your football related posts.

The club deserves every bit of criticism it deserves (and that is plenty without having to go inventing scenarios simply to justify putting the boot in). Should Port have rested Wines after round 1? After all, both he and Toumpas have had experience playing against the senior ranks - yes Wines has a bigger body, but both are not new to senior football. I might be wrong, but I don't recall seeing anything posted by you making such an observation when he was named in the round 2 side... 20/20 hindsight?

So do I... your point?

Sorry, you'll need to explain - I'm a little slow

Jones was in a similar place to that which Watts finds himself in now, in that all and sundry on the forums were baying for his blood, calling for him to be traded, referring to him as a 'C' grade player with no future and so on... this went on until about three seasons ago when things started to click and the rest is history. Let's not allow Toumpas suffer the same fate as Watts. Unfortunately in this new age of instant gratification and fast food, too many expect players to be ready to go 'out of the box', plug 'n play, served up in 2 minutes or you get one free. Too many just don't get that the vast majority of great players took/take time to mature. They often are the players whose value can become the greatest because they have had to put in the hard yards, take the knocks and abuse and as a result have built strength of character which can be as important as (if not more important than) physical strength. (I know, I'm ranting/raving).

Well, in my lifetime, there has hardly been a year go by where I haven't had at least one or more alchohol related incidents take place (since my 18th of course... cough), so I think I should accept that these guys are occasionally go off the rails. However, the fact that it has had no further reporting other than on here and on Big Footy (and as I said before, I would think they are probably from the same source directly or indirectly), would seem to indicate that it either: a. may not have occurred, or b. if it did occur, would appear to be the old storm in a teacup. As I said, let's just wait until we see what really happened, if anything.

Yes IF it's true... many in this thread are making statements about what action must be taken as if it was a known fact that it had happened (including yourself until your response)... let's wait and see before we start hangin' them high.

Jebus D'landers love self flagellation...

Based on what, a rumour on a couple of forums (which probably emanated from the same single source - some one has even extrapolated two reports to mean "multiple people reporting it")?

Do you know for a fact that this altercation even took place at all?

Speaking of 'drop kicks'

Great report Satyriconhome... being able to get along to training on only very rare occasions, it's nice to be able to get a sense of how it felt to be there today! Hope to catch up again in July when I next head down.

Yes, I get the feeling WCE are bringing Carr and LeCras back in this week as they believe this will be little more than a training run for them... we need to show them that they have badly miscalculated on that score... rattle them and they will have essentially come to play with 20 instead of 22.