Farmer Jeff

Wrong - know for a fact that he was never going to get the WB job even if he wanted it

We have our share of players with poor disposals in our back line in recent years Grimes, Garland, Bartram and co but we have a new winner by far McDonald - he I'd deplorable

Honestly - how would Collingwood supporters know whats going on in the box. As per previous poster - a very underwhelming appointment. MFC fails again to land a big fish

I think Judd may have won a Brownlow at 21

This. Where does this blind faith come from? For what role?

quite a remarkable post in light of those that you posted in the hawthorn crowd size thread last week

Very easy when there are only rookies left to play.

Watts has shown some good signs over the last 4 weeks but to say that he provided decent disposal last night is a bit rich.

OP was 100% correct with his original comments re Newton. Newton up forward in 1st quarter was fantastic and gaining confidence which he desperately needs then moved into the ruck?? Put Dunn in there instead (or Jurrah to mix it up)and he would probably be equally as bad as Newton but at least you've still got someone lively and dare I say it on fire up forward and building confidence at the same time. God help us if he was only retained as a back up ruckman.

First laugh of the night. Off to GWS I suggest - there may be some recruiters stupid enough to believe there is this perceived potential still there.

Save and except for today, Bruce has been quite good in the past few weeks and I have been one of his biggest critics. But why on earth is he ever allowed to kick out from behinds. Twice in the last quarter when precision was required he kicked out, basically to see it come back over his head. Bruce not kicking in should be a non-negotiable.

Yep total flogs. All the players are beyond reproach. Bruce should continue kicking out from kick ins. Garland shouldn't be moved from class forwards after getting smashed. Johnson should be planted in the goal square after not taking a mark insie 50. Bennell should continue to be brave. West Coast are very difficult opponents don't forget particulary at the MCG

I agree that his decision making needs improvement and I'm sure that will come. However I still think the quality of his disposal is questionable in the sense that last night (was wet) but also other games he has determined a target and he has missed them clearly.

Wasteful is an understatement. Has his quality of disposal gone backwards?

I don't need to watch the replay - I was there and also there for the last 5 weeks. I suggest that football knowledge is lacking and invite you to watch the last 6 replays as well as last years too - you've been reading too many Herald Sun features. Bruce may have been serviceable early 2000's but anyone with any football knowledge can see that his past it.

It's not player bashing - its reality. The sooner people (including Bailey) realise Bruce is not part of our future the better. His disposable under pressure and not under pressure are deplorable.

Umm hello, I suggest that you go back through all the premiers in the 2000s (not the 80s)and check the value of their CHFs and their contested marking/goal kiking ability. With respect to Miller he gives his all, but he is just not up to it and was overated from the start. He is not solely responsible for the team's woes in terms of being a scapegoat, however he has been consistently bad and on a good day just average. I know its been done to death, but besides that final against FREMANTLE where he took a number of non-contested marks up the ground, I can not easily recall one other valuable performance.

If he hasn't been injured it is certainly a reflection on Dunn - what a perfect way setting in the NAB CupChallenge over the past 2 weeks to test him again the forward line. The last time I checked he was a young player and it would be ideal to get game time into him. According to your argument Green, Miller, McDonald need more match time than him?