P-man

D Generation again. Same mob who did The Late Show (Rob Stitch, Tommy Gleisner et al ) Yes Rob, I get it, you don't believe climate change is real and it's all just another Y2K. Keep me posted on the next time you're going to be phoning up Alan Jones and I'll tune in. Wrong thread by the way mate.

UK TV eh Rob? Which shows? The Bill and Coronation Street perhaps? A bit of Keeping Up Appearances? The Good Life? I shudder to think of a world with just commercial television. What a horrendous thought.

At least they look like they might bat the day out. This has been pathetic stuff from the poms thus far and it's unlikely to get any easier for them at the WACA. Mitch might kill one of them on that deck. His spell yesterday is some of the best fast bowling I've ever seen. A candidate for the best.

1. Trengove - If it's the same Trenners as last year, it's massive alarm bells and we'll need to think about what to do with him. He needs to be twice the player he was in 2012,. 2. Michie - Supposedly one of the steals with Freo fans sorry to see him go. Really keen to see what he can produce. 3. Toumpas - I have a feeling there's going to be no second year blues for Toump. Quite the opposite.

The Late Show back in the 90s was one of the greatest sketch comedies ever produced. Certainly the greatest Australian comedy.

Pretty much the worst case scenario. The two finalists from the last WC and the 15th ranked team in the world in their own neck of their woods. Let's hope we go down swinging.

He's definitely a lad and a likeable one at that. Makes for a refreshing change. It matters most what he does on the field, but you can tell he's determined and raring to go.

Rewind a few years, and the comments about Nate Jones both on here and other supporter forums were, for the most part, not all that favourable. It is in stark contrast to the present day, where you would struggle to find a single supporter who has nothing but admiration for a bloke who stood tall amongst the carnage of the past two seasons. In my opinion, talent parked to one side, he has cemented his spot as a club great for what he has achieved, during what has been one of the toughest periods in the club's history. How he actually rates in the competition remains a matter of debate amongst all circles. Is he merely a good foot soldier forced to carry the load of a largely abhorrent midfield, or has he rightly taken his place amongst midfielders given the ambiguous title of "A grade"? His true qualities may still be hard to determine given his "one man midfield" status. How good can one player be without any support around them? Unless of course that player is the son of God. The question therefore is partly where do you see Jonesy now? But more importantly, and in direct relation to that, what are your hopes and expectations for him next season? Are you predicting him to take his game to another level again, and what does he have to do, offensively or otherwise, in order to achieve that? Cheers all.

Not bad thanks mate. Daily grind with an eye towards Friday. The usual. Re same sex marriage, I'm glad there are some issues (or in this case, non-issues) where you are willing to stray from party lines. You would have been happy to see that the first marriages will still go ahead in our nation's capital this weekend.

Oh hey Rob, how are things? Coulda shoulda woulda. They don't have a double majority. There is a house of review for a reason. Just because you win an election does not mean you have the entire will of the Australian people to do whatever the hell you want. It doesn't work that way.

I'm with you nut. It doesn't raise my ire, but I do shake my head at constant talk of a "mandate". Abbott has a mandate to govern, and therefore to INTRODUCE proposed legislation to Parliament. Putting aside that 48% wanted someone else, the idea that a mandate abolishes opposition is purely totalitarian. I can only smile at Dr No throwing a hissy fit now the shoe is on the other foot. The grinch is threatening to make them all work til Christmas. Kinda like the rest of the country already does.

No footy and no "like" button make P-man....something something.

Haha..exactly. It's amazing how quickly Newman came on board the moment it was a Lib offering the money. Truly remarkable. You have to wonder whether cheques with no strings attached is really a national reform, but the important thing is that the funding is going to reach the schools, hopefully in a spread that meets the original intention of Gonski.

Can't say I'm shocked. They're as hopeless as each other. A good day for the game, as just about anyone will be an improvement.

He's just been given an out. They've always been a fickle bunch anyway. How often do you hear the phrase, "I'm an Essendon supporter...but I don't really follow the footy."

It isn't over yet. If we have learned anything, it's that Demonland can turn literally any topic into a [censored] fight.

DC - Not sure what your source for that claim is, but the ABC MD Mark Scott testified before a Senate Committee that the ABC had the material for a few days before publication, certainly ruling out that they had the information before the election. This is on the public record. I have no particular interest in defending the ABC, but Rob was stating something as fact, which it is not. It is a theory which I believe has little basis.

I can't get past the first paragraph unless I subscribe. In any case, what would your response to my critique be? Constructive? Based on your contributions here, I sincerely doubt it. You're convinced the ABC and every non-Murdoch paper is out to get Abbott and nothing is going to persuade you otherwise. I haven't defended the ABC's decision to release the information, but I absolutely dispute the idea that they would sit on it until the Coalition was in power is some sort of sabotage attempt. It's an absurd theory for which there isn't a shred of evidence as far as I am aware. One that only Andrew Bolt followers would ascribe to. I do like your request for ME to be objective I've already provided numerous examples where I've backed a move by the current government. You've given no concessions at all. Must be off, Rob. I look forward to wasting more of your invaluable time with more of my "crap" at a future undetermined date.

"Put up with me" lol You keep saying you're taking your bat and ball and going home, then immediately return. Admit it, you're a glutton for punishment. We are in agreement that Shorten should keep his mouth shut, as he has done, partly for the reasons you point out. If you seriously, honestly believe that the ABC has sat on this information and waited for the Coaltion to assume government, you are truly gone mate. That's not just conspiracy theory stuff, that's loony bin material.

IN THE PARLIAMENT. Shorten could have torn shreds off Abbott during QT over his handling of the incident, but he hasn't because the national interest should always come ahead of political point scoring. Your posts don't annoy me in the least, why would I put you on ignore? You're a firmly rusted on Lib supporter. My old man was one of those as well. I would speak to him the same way I'm speaking to you.

Why do you continually misconstrue or misrepresent what I say? I have never once said that the media are only against the ALP. I have said that Murdoch papers set a vendetta against the Labor government, and that is backed up by statistical evidence as well as Murdoch's strong ties with Abbott. It is fact, not conjecture. I am not disputing that Fairfax are more left leaning, and certainly have been very critical of the Abbott government. In my opinion, for the most part, rightly so. You perceive that Fairfax have an anti-Coalition bias. Fairfax, to my recollection, have always gone after the government at the time. They absolutely hammered Gillard over various issues. I can produce a string of headlines for you. So, going back to these "deliberate lies", there's a story you can't recall, and an OPINION piece on broken promises. The diplomatic incident referred to in the article was the stand off with Jakarta which forced a boat to be taken to Christmas Island. The pre-election commitment was to turn back the boats where it was safe to do so. I wouldn't so much categorise it as a broken promise, but it showed how flimsy and unrealistic a policy of "stop the boats" can be. The promise of more transparency has without question been broken by Morrisson's farcical Sergeant Schultz briefings. The backflip on Gonski that looks to have shafted the signatory states is also a broken election promise, no matter how much Abbott tries to paint it differently. I would add that it is utterly ridiculous how you keep trying to claim the phone tapping incident is "Labor's mess". The incident is no-one's mess. Countries have spied for generations, and the leak was completely outside of Australia's control. Hence the unified stance being taken in the Parliament. You can place your labels on me and others all you like Rob. Anyone reading this thread can see who has their eyes and ears firmly shut. When you are capable of looking at the Coalition government with a critical mind, instead of continually deflecting to "what would. Labor do?" or "those dishonest ABC bastards", I will begin to take you more seriously.

haha..some of your best work deanox. Putting aside the silliness of the "PhD", I'm all for this.

What the hell, I'll bite. What "deliberate lies" have been printed, Rob?

Accurate and creative kick? This is Pickles Evans we are talking about? I'll believe it when I see it in a match. The old "brilliant at training" has become a Melbourne epidemic in recent years. But nonetheless good to hear he is coming along. I'm not discounting anything under the new coaching regime. I agree with Ron. Yours is one of the best reports I've seen MB. I see Demonland reporter in your future. The pay isn't great but you'll have all the "likes" a man could want. That is when likes make their long awaited and triumphant return.

I loved him in his heyday, but if he has any part in stealing Frawley, he can [censored] right off.