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We are bad, because we don't have enough players who play good. ... slightly different. Same outcome though.

Yep, we should have got Kev Sheedy.

He will definitely be coach next year.

And it only took him 3 years to get there.

Missed plenty of pre-season and matches through injuries etc. They're not fit enough to be considered.

MELBOURNE Backs Daniel Nicholson James Sellar Tom McDonald Half backs Joel Macdonald James Frawley Colin Garland Centreline Rohan Bail Jack Grimes Jack Trengove Half forwards Colin Sylvia Stef Martin Lynden Dunn Forwards Neville Jetta Jared Rivers Brad Green Followers Jake Spencer Jordie McKenzie Nathan Jones Interchange Sam Blease Jeremy Howe Brent Moloney James Strauss Emergencies Matthew Bate Jordan Gysberts James Magner In Jordie McKenzie Brent Moloney James Sellar Out Tom Couch James Magner Ricky Petterd (oh dear ... ). No Watts. Again.

That you have no idea.

The two are not mutually exclusive. Throw into that lack of fitness (either for the kicker or the receivers), lack of confidence, lack of experience, and lack of stability (in the team) etc. etc., and you have all the recipes needed for poor skill execution. You're right about making bad decisions - but they should hardly need to be making decisions at all if everyone was doing what they're supposed to, and getting to where they should be (for which, see above re fitness, confidence, stability in the team, experience etc.) It's all interrelated, and it only needs a couple of those components to be a little out of kilter to see the kind of performance we saw last night.

4 Jack Trengove 10 11 21 4 1 5 2 1 0 0 84 5 Nathan Jones 10 10 20 1 0 6 1 4 0 0 66

Not really, especially when you look at what the so few posters are posting.

I'd go with that. On a side note, not sure we're going to have to worry about who's going to play on Travis Boak ...

I'd rather have 2 wins under Neeld (and co.), than 8 wins under Bailey.

Reasons. Which aren't excuses. Big differences is that you have to think a bit before you find reasons.

"Analysis" of the players and the staff doesn't get much lower than this.

Maybe. But you made the claim that most of the players at the club have the same specific deficiencies that Jose listed for Moloney. You were challenged on that, and invited to respond, but you haven't - or can't. I would suggest that your heart is getting the better of your head here.

From all reports, Trengove's work ethic and professionalism off field is second to none at our club Leading the way Trenners.

That's not what the coach, the FD, the board and the players think. In any case, I was responding to your (inane) assertion that Trengove and Grimes are lucky to be getting games.

Grimes is second for possessions. Trengove is 6th (about the same as Frawley), second to McKenzie for tackles, and in the top handful in pretty well all other stats. And the idea that the club makes decisions based on superficial considerations like stubbornness, just about sums you up.

... and hasn't played a decent game for a year or so. Times change, and time seems to have caught up with our Brett. Unfortunately.

Or ... that the coaching, facilities and development around these drafted players has to be top class or we're doomed to fail.

Typical Demonland post these days: You can't have it both ways. Either it was NOT implemented, therefore, had nothing to do with 186, or it WAS implemented ... which goes against your "buried without a trace". My understanding is that many of the changes in the club and FD that we saw over the off-season were instigated by Lyon and co. and drew on the Andrews report. If you have any (solid) information to the contrary, be interested to see it.

... because he's the kind of player that oozes leadership and responsibility, the kind you can build a team around.

Thank you for your opinions. We'll be in touch. If necessary. In the meantime, you might have a look at when the Geelong review you refer to took place. It was after Thompson had been at Geelong for SIX YEARS.

Out Dunn. 1 week (at least). With Tom McD (and Sellar?) probably still out, presumably an opening in the back line, given that that's where Dunn played on the weekend. Strauss? Running out of troops here.

FFS, they're a couple of kids, and big kids at that. Both will improve, and continue to improve, health issues notwithstanding.